Buffy knowing about Connor

[doobles2]

I know this has been discussed, but its something I've wondered about from time to time. Did Buffy ever find out about Conner? I can't recall any conversations about this....

If there has been, please delete and I'll take that as a yes.

[.::Thalion::.]

I have been wondering the same thing. i dont know sorry

[Mason]

I think we'd have to assume no. Even if she ever did, then she doesn't remember him anymore...

[doobles2]

I know Buffy wouldn't remember him, I would've just like to have seen a scene with her finding out about him having a child with Darla. After all Willow and Faith knew about it there for awhile.

[JustAnnie]

Why can't they remember him? Haven't seen more then the beginning of s3, so I'm just wondering why...

[TheChosenOne]

Maybe Willow and Faith didn't say anything because the problems in Sunnydale were more important and their memories would have been modified towards the end of the season to forget.

Did any of them interact with Connor when they were on Angel?

[MRFAITH]

both interracted with Conner. I think that when Angel wiped the memories of Team Angel clean of Conner, that he may have wiped Faith's and Willow's memories of him too.

[Angels baby101]

He might not have had them wiped clean rather then the fact that Willow didn't want Buffy to know, and faith maybe had alittle bit more respect then as not to tell her...They had some big issues that needed to be dealt with and they didn't have time to fool around with something as simple as Angel having a son though They did probley wipe out the memories of everyone who knew that connor was angel's son.

[eset]

Angel wiped al the memories clean so that Connor could have a normal life, so that probably included Willow and Faith. My guess is that if he hadn't, it might have been mentioned but not dwelt on, maybe a raised eyebrow or a funny look.

[SlayerFaith89]

I aways did wonder that.......i think not...willow and faith knew though

[MRFAITH]

I think that willow knew before she came, so maybe her memory was not wiped

[JustAnnie]

Maybe they told Buffy, but they just never showed us that?

[Xander]

I think I read somewhere that Angel was going to tell Buffy in Chosen so she would be the only one who knows about Connor (it was pre-mind wipe) but who knows. I think she would of been a lot grouchier if she did know.

[Fat Elvis 007]

It wasn't just a memory wipe. The entire world had to be altered so that Connor could have this new life. It was like Dawn in S5. There had to be tangible records of her existence, not just memories. Angel had history changed.

[Faldor]

Willow knew before she crossed over in S4 so therefore we're assume buffy knows

[sugarkisses_xx]

Willow knew before she crossed over in S4 so therefore we're assume buffy knows

I agree. . . although, Willow did talk to Fred on the phone, so that explains why she knows. . . and I kinda doubt during everything going on in Season Seven Willow would tell Buffy, esspecially because of Buffy and Angel's history -- yet, on the other hand, Buffy probably did find out when Faith/Willow got back -- even if it was never said on the show. I doubt they'd keep her from it. It's not like Buffy and Angel were together or anything. Yet, it woulda been interesting to see them have an angsty talk about Connor.

[WatcherWes]

Connor was just a memory wipe, Dawn was where reality was changed. All that happened was Connor's personality was repalced with a new one, and he and almost everyone else had their memories changed.

[dianalovesjon]

i dont know if she did know about conner but if she did how would she feel about it and what would she doi

[Miss Informed]

I believe on the episdoe Chosen Angel was going to tell Buffy about it or something. There dialogue was supposed to be longer but they cut the scene due to conflicts of the show. He was going to tell her he loved Cordy too.

[ChooseUrDestiny]

I don't think she knew.. in some ways that's a good thing... I mean she didn't have to deal with the emotional pain... I mean could u imagine how she would feel if she found out that him and Darla slept together and he didn't go all evil..then throw in the fact that they had a child...I mean Buffy could never be with Angel in that way ever again, and her and him would never be able to have a child... I think if she knew it would have had a severe emotional impact....But....
Then again, him and Buffy did have a long serious relationship, he should be considerate and tell her he had a son.. I think she would have wanted to know.. I mean would u want someone u loved to keep that from you? He should have had enough respect for her that he could tell her something like that...she would eventually gotten over the fact that it was with Darla...

[alluring dejection]

It wasn't just a memory wipe. The entire world had to be altered so that Connor could have this new life. It was like Dawn in S5. There had to be tangible records of her existence, not just memories. Angel had history changed.
If it's either this, or memories, I still want to know how Cordy was able to remember Connor. I mean, even in a coma, or whatever she came back as...wouldn't she have forgotten him? >.< Also, would it be that necessary to mention Connor to Buffy? I mean, it'd just bring...her...pain.

[HellGods]

Well if Willow knew before arriving in Las Angeles then I'm guessing Buffy did as well. I think I rememberd Buffy making a quick reference to Connor before... but it could just be my mind playing tricks on me :-P.

[Mesektet Ra]

I would assume Buffy knew, just by the fact that Willow knew - Willow isn't good at keeping secrets, and it's a decent assumption that all vaguely important information gets passed through Buffy at at least one point.

I also think that anybody not of the Fang Gang that knew about Connor would get their minds erased. Kinda like Dawn - when she was created, Angel and Faith had memories of her as well, because anybody who would've come into contact with her since the beginning of the show would know of her. Same kinda deal with Connor - people who came in contact with him or would know if him by word of mouth would get erased.

There's also the off-chance that Buffy knew and didn't get mindwiped because she never met him in person. If so, she didn't mention it, obviously.

[HellGods]

I'm pretty sure that if buffy knew, then she was mind-wiped as well though. Wolfram & Hart wouldn't make the mistake of letting someone who has the chance to contact the fang gang know about Connor.

[Hero]

I think she knew about Connor. I just don't think it was very important for the Buffy story line to make a point out of it. It's probably one of those things like Faith's cruciblawateveritscalled or if Faith and Kendra got the prophecy dreams. It probably did happen, but it just wasn't very important to make a point of it.

[postmortem]

I don't think Willow told her that little fact considering how Buffy still feels about him. That would have devastated her.

[Angels baby101]

I dont think she knew about Connor, cause i think if she did it would kinda show on Buffy because i think she'd kinda be taken back i mean she still loved angel, we saw that when she kissed him in season 7 when he came back for like 2 episodes... It would hurt her to know the man she loved had a child with a woman who tried to kill her and who she had been jealous over. If she knew i think it would deffinatly show through a bit

[Wicked]

I figure she mustve known. But at that point they were keeping the shows seperate. No mention of each other what with the different networks. The crossovers were unavoidable but besides that they werent mentioned. Maybe Buffy heard about it on a day she wasnt fighting great evil so it never made it into an episdoe :)

[Angel's vision]

Didn't Buffy question Faith about helping Angel..?and didn't she get all vague..? as did Willow i'm guessing that they didn't tell her for fear of upsetting her, but who knows...?

[Wicked]

Yeah but imagine they didnt tell her. And then somehow she found out, and found out they knew about it. I cant see Buffy forgiving them anytime soon for not telling her Angel had a son!

[white avenger]

If she ever knew about Connor (which I personaly doubt), her mind would've been wiped clean of the memory along with all the others.

It's a shame that they couldn't have worked it in there, though. Just imagine how much glasses polishing Giles would've done upon discovering that two undead vampires managed to mabe a baby.Then teenaged Connor's enhansed physical powers on top of that? Giles would've gone into a twitterpated coma.

[Voran]

As we saw at the end of season 4, Angel had WR&H rewrite reality, giving connor a new life, family, etc. Everyone (probably the whole world over) had their memories of Connor changed (if they had any) and a new history was written.

Wesley broke the talisman container thingie during season 5. What is unclear, is if anyone outside that immediate sphere of influence got their memories back. I don't believe any other chars during the remainder of season 5 referred to Angel's kid, and I don't really see Wesley bringing it up, since in a way, once again, he was responsible for screwing over Angel's son (to a degree).

It was definately shown that Connor was now a fusion of 'demondimension raised connor' and 'new connor', and that he was able to find a more or less happy medium. The fact he was able to go back to his parents possibly implies that since they weren't in that area of effect when the memory talisman when poof, they don't realize that connor isn't their son.

[spuffy]

Hmm... interesting I don't know though but in S4 of Angel Willow knew about Connor so Buffy must've known too.