View Full Version : Any Irish speakers about...long shot I know
BrimstoneGurl 09-08-2004, 12:28 PM They're seems to be people on this board from all over the world...so there's bound to be some Irish people here....right?!?
Well if they are come in and show of your native language...then again you might not even be from Ireland but you've got a few words...anything will do! :bounce:
Jill_Valentine 09-08-2004, 06:31 PM Ta cupla focail agam... ach ta mo chuid gaeilge uafasach. Rinne me mo ardteistimearach dha bhliain seo chaite, agus ansin... bhuel, nil me in ann a usaid rudai chomh le Modh Coinniollach, agus nil me in ann aon rud a litriu. :D
Ca bhfuil tu i do chonai?
Slayer,The 09-08-2004, 08:13 PM Ok, the following will sound pretty sophomoric but:
I honestly didn't think there was an Irish language. I always suspected they just spoke English, due their neighbors. Wow, I'm a fricken' idiot!
Jill_Valentine 09-08-2004, 08:24 PM :D
It's a fair assumption. Irish died out as the popular language under British rule, as families adopted the language of government, English. So, English is our first language. However, the modern government puts quite a bit of effort into sustaining the language. We learn Irish from primary school, and all official documents and road signs etc. have Irish translations, and you have to be able to speak Irish for most government jobs (Police force, etc) There's also some areas of the countries reserved for Irish speaking communities, and an Irish language TV station. But my Irish is terrible. I mainly use it to insult tourists without their knowledge. :D
I might be wrong, but I think David Boreanaz speaks Irish at some stage in Angel...
*Other nerdy fact: The name "Pocahontas" comes from Irish. Puca + Iontas = Wonderful Spirit. The word Smithereens is ours too.
Slayer,The 09-08-2004, 08:32 PM I believe Angel does speak Irish as well and he is of Irish decent, but as a true Irish woman, you must hate his accent.
Jill_Valentine 09-08-2004, 09:01 PM :D His accent is awful, no doubt about it. But, he's trying his best, bless his little cotton socks, and at least it's not as bad as the Charlies Angels' 2 guys.
"Buffí, an Marfóir de Súmaire" or translated literally, "Buffy, the killer of leeches".... :D
Beer_Nut 09-09-2004, 08:07 AM Dia Duit. That's about all I can remember now and I took Irish for 2 years, I need to dig out my dictionary.. lol.
I can pronounce the words, but I don't remember what they mean.
Mr. Pointy 09-09-2004, 09:15 AM "Slainte" - does that mean "cheers"?
I remember being very confused by the Gaelic toilet signs in Irish pubs - the word for women looked a bit like men as I recall (something like "mna"?). It didn't do to be desperate to go when you had to wait to see which toilet the locals went into :)
I loved Ireland - a great craic was had on my visits there (there you go, that looks like another one - "craic":))
Jill_Valentine 09-09-2004, 09:34 AM Hang on, Beer Nut, did you learn Irish outside of Ireland? Crikey!
Slainte does mean cheers. Technically, it means "Health" or "Safety", two things I know I don't associate with drinking... :D
And just to demonstrate how insanely confusing the language is - The plural is Mna. The singular is Bean. Bean. Mna. Argh!
I think there's a campaign to get Irish recognised as an official European language... dunno how well that's going to go...
Beer_Nut 09-10-2004, 08:30 AM Hang on, Beer Nut, did you learn Irish outside of Ireland? Crikey!
I took it in university for a couple of years while I was deciding whether to do a masters in Celtic archaeology. My Welsh is actually better than my Irish though.
ChosenOne 09-10-2004, 11:50 AM Bheul, tá sé seo maith le feiceail. Tá mise ag freastail ar scoil lan Gaeilge ó bhí mé 4. Agus silím go bhfuil sé tabhachta go bheid teanga na hÉirinn mar teanga oifigiuil san Eoraip.
And to Beer Nut! Well Irish is very hard to learn (it has so many bloody rules). But i enjoy speaking it. I like languages.
I notice that 'Buffy Summers' has Slainte just below her Username. Although i'm guessing that's all she knows! (Don't take that the wrong way)
Slán Go Foil
Darla 09-10-2004, 03:12 PM Yep that's pretty much all the Irish I know lol. Except for Damien Duff of course :D Kidding!
Though if anyone wants to teach me... lol
I have the audio tapes actually, but I haven't gotten past pronouncing the alphabet lol
Emma Caulfield 09-11-2004, 07:05 AM I've heard some Irish from the leprichans in Charmed! lol and I've heard people speak before. I've always wanted to learn it so if anyone want's to teach me I'm willing! :D
ChosenOne 09-11-2004, 11:01 AM OK I'm Mr. ChosenOne and 2day's lesson is;
Hello = Dia Duit (Pronounced Gee-a-Ditch)
Slán = Bye (Prounced Sl-an)
Is mise... = I am... (Prounced Is-miss-ha...)
Tá Chonaí orm í... =I live in... (Prounced= Taa-Ho-nee-or-um-uch)
that concludes the lesson for today...
Jill_Valentine 09-11-2004, 04:01 PM There's also the dialects, which are great fun, nice and confusing. ChosenOne is from Donegal, so quite a few of his pronunciations would be different to mine... Are you from a Gaeltacht area?
ChosenOne 09-12-2004, 08:39 AM No just outside it. Although when i listen to people from the south i sorta drives me up the walls. As i hate things like Bhíos and seeing as our Irish is different all our texts books are in the southern irish so we have to know them both. PS I'm from Letterkenny. Ms. Southside :)
BrimstoneGurl 09-12-2004, 10:03 AM My goodness.I didn't think I'd get any replies to this,....bit wow!And alot of you know more thanone word&the correct pronounciation of them....and the flaming history.I'm all giddy now.
Cheapaim go bhfuil sé aontach tabhactach go mbeidh doaine ag labhairt an teange seo,go hairithe in Eireann é fein.Tá conaigh orm i nGailimh....ach tá a fhios agam go bhfuil and teanga thart fá Corcaí ect...ag gconaí ag cur isteach orm :hihi:
Oh.....and yes Angel's accent was terrible.....as is most accents preformed on screen.How come the hot guys can get it so wrong....David B....Brad Pitt.....
ChosenOne 09-12-2004, 10:12 AM i don't know... but have you noticed the recent trend with celebs. the trend where the say all they're family are from Louth or something. it it's a attention getter. but hey it gets the tourists in
BrimstoneGurl 09-12-2004, 01:34 PM Yes....everyone is Irish. Every actor,politician......drunk is appraently irish!I mean why do they do it?? And as for the tourist...yeah brings the money in....which goes to the immigrants&goverment.The only thing the people get is litter and confusement! Anyway I'm not going to rant about the awful state of our goverment! :)
I have yet to meet a foreign actor(well I wish I could meet :hihi: ) that can do the accent right.I know they're some that can,but 98% are terrible!
ChosenOne 09-13-2004, 11:47 AM well i think the Cate Blanchett in Veronica Guerin was a great accent. The best Hollywood actor who can do it. And yes our government is bad but at least we don't have W. Bush....
Jill_Valentine 09-13-2004, 11:55 AM Blanchetts a good one... er... was anybody else shocked at how bad Pierce Brosnan's is? Navan's most cherished son and he sounded like the Lucky Charms Leprachaun.
BrimstoneGurl 09-13-2004, 02:28 PM He was awful in Evelyn! I mean he is Irish and he can't get the accent right.What hope have actors from aborad have! :hihi:
ChosenOne 09-14-2004, 11:40 AM i like mr.brosan although i havent seen Evelyn( and don't want to) i like his accent but why is an irish amn working for MI6 in england
Jill_Valentine 09-14-2004, 11:41 AM When was the last time Bond was English?
BrimstoneGurl 09-14-2004, 01:41 PM I'd say in the 80's....when that shakespear actor played him!
Is it true they'll be no more Pierce as 007!
Too bad...he was perfect for it! :D
Darla 09-15-2004, 01:16 PM Timothy Dalton? Wasn't the character in the orignal book Irish?
BrimstoneGurl 09-16-2004, 10:56 AM I don't know.....I doubt it.All I know is the name JamesbOnd came from an author of a bird book,that fleming was reading.I can't picture Fleming making a secret agent that worked for the Birtish goverment being irish.....but then again..you never know! :)
ChosenOne 09-17-2004, 01:07 PM it's like the irish football team need english players to survive... the english government need the irsih to survive. (I scratch your back you scratch mine...)
BrimstoneGurl 09-17-2004, 02:31 PM I'm not sure about them needing the irish to survived,they seem to have done wel enough by themselves.They provide their own needs,so no they don't need the irish.
But back on topic......who do you guys think actually nailed the accent,got it right! :)
Oona's Grace 09-17-2004, 03:01 PM Cate Blanchet&Eric Homes(some actor that acts once every-full moon) :hihi:
And as for Fleming&if the original character was to be irish.....it was going to be an American that transfered over to the British secret service,but that was Flemings rough plot!Thank god he re-wrote it and had it as an enlish(irish,welsh,austriallan :) )
or else we wouldn't have the lovely Pierce Brosnan! :love:
ChosenOne 09-18-2004, 08:45 AM wow let's remane this the bond thread
Oona's Grace 09-18-2004, 08:54 AM Why not,no harm! :hihi:
ChosenOne 09-18-2004, 03:53 PM caide mar ata una agus a babaí an bhfuil sweeny ready for the 'aul birth?
Oona's Grace 09-18-2004, 04:14 PM Tharla droch-rud ar maidin....d'ith an bhean leis an ruball-mór na babaí.Ach tá sé ceart go leor anois,mar go bhfuil una ag deandh níos mó!
ChosenOne 09-19-2004, 04:12 AM ach, an bhfuil sí arais ar na drugaí sin??? Honest to god!!!;)
Oona's Grace 09-19-2004, 04:27 AM Tá cinnte.Nach bhfuil sé ufasa.....agus níl aon meeaaaas aici ara chorp féin....an spúnóg!
ChosenOne 09-19-2004, 10:01 AM you make more sense than a sexually confused doormant :)
Oona's Grace 09-19-2004, 10:13 AM 'doormant'....that alone made no sense....but the sexually confused part...that made plenty...really it did a thaisce :hihi:
BrimstoneGurl 09-19-2004, 10:18 AM What the heck is going on here.You do realsie that people in here have some ability to translate irish...whereas I am fluent in it.I havn't a cluie why you two talking about 'that stuff you were talking about',but honestly both of you.And chosenone,please don't use my topic to star dishing out insults to other,especially if it makes no sense.
ChosenOne 09-20-2004, 01:25 PM i'm not insulting anyone. and i know that you can speak irish. this is a public forum where any one can talk to anyone else i happened to be chatting to Oona's Grace and i will continue to do so in future in *your* thread or not. BTW You might have stared this thread but it is not yours
BrimstoneGurl 09-20-2004, 01:37 PM I simply said to be careful with what you say,and seen as I started this thread to see if others know irish&to enjoy,I can voice my opinion however I see fit.As for the insult...I mean that nonsense you wrote about 'sexually confused doormat'...which I doubt was meant to be a complimen.t
ChosenOne 09-20-2004, 02:17 PM i was having fun. i dont actually insult people over the internet. I sorta know this person in real life
Darla 09-21-2004, 07:29 PM Okay everyone back to business :)
It was actually my Irish friend (who sadly left to go home to Ireland last night) who I think said the original character was Irish so Pierce Brosnan is the closest to the original intent and that Sean Connery has no business playing Bond lol.
Oona's Grace 09-22-2004, 01:31 PM Sean Connery's accent is so strong,he can't do any other one.He won an oscar for playing an Irish cop in the Untoucables,even though he still had the same Connery scott accent.
Tehn again Pierce isn't the most 'irish' of actors......he doesn't even know how to say 'hello,my name is Ppierce Brosnan' ion irish! :)
ChosenOne 09-24-2004, 04:25 AM That's what you get for getting the 'Key' to 'Navan'
Oona's Grace 09-24-2004, 01:32 PM What an honour that must of been for him! :hihi:
ChosenOne 09-25-2004, 05:50 AM Well i dont think he cares as he's living it up in LA or Florida or somewhere
Darla 09-26-2004, 09:48 PM That's what you get for getting the 'Key' to 'Navan'
[stupid American] Isn't Navan in Northern Ireland? [/stupid American]
Jill_Valentine 09-27-2004, 07:27 AM Nope. It's about an hour away from me, since as of friday, I'm no longer a resident of Dublin, and I'm back to the midlands. And in fairness, my grip on outside geography is shaky at best. I'm still getting to grips with the whole Washington/ Washington thing...
Darla 09-27-2004, 03:13 PM Ah and once again the stupid American lives on! Is that the same place where Navan Fort is?
Don't you like how I've completely hijacked this thread? :D
ChosenOne 09-28-2004, 02:36 AM Ah and once again the stupid American lives on! Is that the same place where Navan Fort is?
on't you like how I've completely hijacked this thread? :D
There is navan in the north and one in meath just beside Dublin :dog2:
Darla 09-28-2004, 07:16 PM Cheers :) Ah, Meath...that's where my friend lives. Beautiful area.
Jill_Valentine 09-29-2004, 09:01 AM ....
not near Oldcastle in Meath, by any chance?
Darla 09-30-2004, 06:58 PM All I know is he lives in Trim?
Ah, looked it up on the map. Nope :(
Jill_Valentine 09-30-2004, 07:22 PM I go through Trim regularly though (It's on the bus route to Dublin) Gorgeous town. They filmed part of Braveheart in the castle there, if I recall.
ChosenOne 10-02-2004, 04:23 AM I go through Trim regularly though (It's on the bus route to Dublin) Gorgeous town. They filmed part of Braveheart in the castle there, if I recall.
I bet the scottish wern't too happy about that ;)
Jill_Valentine 10-02-2004, 02:18 PM Well, they filmed most of the rest of it in Wicklow (With the help of my FCA friends) so it's the Irishest Scottish film ever...:D
ChosenOne 10-03-2004, 10:36 AM the 2 countries are basically the same any way... like tow big counties seperated by a big lake or river...:)
Faith 10-04-2004, 05:02 PM the 2 countries are basically the same any way... like tow big counties seperated by a big lake or river...:)
I'm sorry but they are not the same. Each country has its own level of independence through the education system, parliament, courts and laws. I don't mean to sound harsh, especially since my mothers side of the family is Irish, but its a pet peeve of mine. I don't even consider myself to be British, when asked and even on forms I put down Scottish.
They filmed part of Bravehart in Ireland because some of the scenery is similar that is it, and even then they are still different, but the general look is the same. The reason they filmed part in Ireland part Scotland was because the Scottish tourist industry was asking for too much money, which personally I think is insane and I don't agree with the fees that they asked for but thats another matter.
ChosenOne 10-05-2004, 01:20 PM I'm sorry but they are not the same. Each country has its own level of independence through the education system, parliament, courts and laws. I don't mean to sound harsh, especially since my mothers side of the family is Irish, but its a pet peeve of mine. I don't even consider myself to be British, when asked and even on forms I put down Scottish.
I'm sorry i didn't mean to cause offence. But i just ment that Ireland and Scotland are both (visually and scenicly) almost the same. Even the most die hard patriotic Irish or Scottish person would find it hard to prove othewise (Apart from the Higland Cattle...lol)
But I also hate when someone calls me British or English. I'm from Ireland and over 80 years ago we fought a war and won it because we didnt want to be ruled by England and today I stand by that. I think that a country's independance is good. And even though i'm not from Scotland (yet my family is orginally...going back 3 generations) I would like Scotland to have independance from England...
Blah blah blah god i go on don't i??
I take one thing and turn it into a big thing ::noangel:
Oona's Grace 10-07-2004, 01:48 PM 80?? Do you not know you're own history......over 8 centuries more like,my goodness what would mac a bhaird say??
ChosenOne 10-08-2004, 12:07 PM i ment within recent times since about 1916 which would make it more 90 years
Low Rats 10-18-2005, 01:24 PM *Has a thing for girls with irish accents*
In the spirit of St.Patrick I'm going to see if we can get this thread going again...Buffy agus Angel as Gaelige!!!!
Kean anseo!! Ar aghaidh libh laids!!!
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