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freakydorky
12-25-2005, 05:03 PM
I thought that River was a better fighter than Buffy and Angel put together when she was fighting in Serenity.

Black Eye Guy
01-03-2006, 08:10 AM
I had never seen Firelfybefore I saw Serenity and I thought they were some of the most amazing fight scenes I have ever seen!

RockManic
01-03-2006, 09:04 AM
Voted for Spike due to my total Spike bias, lol!

As for River, i still think that the Firefly universe could be connected to the slayerverse and it could be discovered that River was some futuristic offshoot of the slayer line ... actually, don't get me started on my theories for connecting the two stories! ;)

Wicked
01-03-2006, 09:08 AM
ooh, connections. never thought of that. this is gonna require some thought. then i'll be back with ll my theories that will turn out to be exactly the same as the watchers. like always :p

Allycat
01-03-2006, 09:09 AM
Where are Illyria, Willow, Faith, and Connor?!?

Black Eye Guy
01-03-2006, 09:31 AM
Voted for Spike due to my total Spike bias, lol!

As for River, i still think that the Firefly universe could be connected to the slayerverse and it could be discovered that River was some futuristic offshoot of the slayer line ... actually, don't get me started on my theories for connecting the two stories! ;)


I thought the exact samething after seeing Serenity!! I said it to the people I went with and she was just like "Don't start!" lol

freakydorky
01-03-2006, 01:59 PM
oooooh, connections, thanks for the fanfiction idea!!!

Wesley_Wyndam_P
01-03-2006, 02:55 PM
River would win. River's move seemed faster and more fulid then anyone on Buffy or Angel ever did. Also The hits seemed to be with more force. But I have a small martial arts background and pick out stupid little stuff.

Kryptonite
01-03-2006, 05:56 PM
i picked angel

im surprised no one has picked buffy

PrincessZombie
01-03-2006, 06:12 PM
I definitely thought that River was a better fighter. Buffy and Angel never seemed to have the same grace and control that River did. :)

FahrbotDrusilla
01-03-2006, 06:14 PM
im surprised no one has picked buffy

I'm not, I think I'll pick River... she seemed to be able to do things that Buffy could never do (with no super powers that were obvious in canon) although the first thing I thought when I saw the movie was she had to be a slayer in the future.

Allycat
01-03-2006, 07:09 PM
I voted for Buffy... cause I thought it was sad noneone else had ^_^

Kryptonite
01-03-2006, 07:29 PM
a sympathy vote, nice...she'll love you for that one

Kendall Hart
03-06-2006, 02:00 PM
I think definately River I mean check out those moves, look how stealthful and fast she is. She would definately overtop them all as best fighter. I can actually see River as a futuristic vampire slayer actually lol.

Nighthawk
03-07-2006, 11:42 PM
I voted Buffy. Haven't seen Firefly or Serenity. I will soon though, expecting the DVD's from netflix :)

Chasity
03-10-2006, 12:21 AM
I still went with Buffy...even though I think River kicks total butt. She is too unpredictable and not constant.

zombie.apparatus
03-10-2006, 01:52 AM
EXCUSE ME, but i dont see an option for faith!..... tsk tsk well here's my vote - Buffy hands down...... Buffy was an awesome fighter.... u get the point

Black Eye Guy
03-12-2006, 04:01 PM
But strength is not the most important thing in a fight, River moved faster then the others, her attacks were more focused because she was more focused, her dexterity was mush better then Buffy's. Buffy could knock a man across a room because of her strength, River could do the same without superhuman strength because of the momentum she could build up, and how perfectly accurate her attacks were, she could have danced circles around the others before they even got to lay a hand on her

Black Eye Guy
03-13-2006, 12:27 PM
But that makes River a better fighter! River exists in a separate universe to Buffy, Angel and Spike, so she will never have to fight Angel or Spike, she can read everyone in her verse, making her better then Angel and Spike in theirs so she is a better fighter!

LilMizPiper
08-17-2007, 01:52 AM
They're all very good fighters but I think River is by FAR the best. Her fighting looks the coolest too, lol. I just love how graceful she is!

white avenger
08-17-2007, 10:20 AM
Of the characters listed, I would have to say that, by the end of the "Angel" series, Spike would have to be the best fighter in the Buffyverse. My reasons for saying it are simple: by that time, he had either beaten or fought to a standstill every other fighter mentioned, with the exception of River.

He almost beat Buffy the first time they fought, and it was only through the fortuitous intervention of a mom and a fire axe that our favorite Slayer wasn't either killed or turned right then.

When there was something that really mattered to Spike (the Cup of Eternal Torment, combined with its prophecy), Angel, by his own admission, got his ass kicked.

No, he never fought River, for obvious reasons, (though, immortal vampire and all, if we accept that the Serenityverse is part of the Buffyverse without the demons, they could square off someday, especially if you accept the theory that River is in some way connected to the Slayer line).

Now, if we were to include Illyria in the list, especially at here peak of power, well...

Jone
08-17-2007, 06:05 PM
I think all of them are strong but River is definetly the strongest. (She can shoot people with her eyes closed!) Also, she reminds me up Illyeria in Time Bombwhen she easily staked Angel and Spike and killed Lorne and Wes. She just goes crazy and kills everything in her way (River, I mean...). River also defeated all those vicious Reavers in Serenity. All these things proved, to me at least, that she could pretty much destroy anything she wanted to.

Mortal
08-17-2007, 07:03 PM
I voted for River - at least if weapons are involved. Her style is better, she's next to impossible to surprise because of her psychic abilities, and by the same token she'll be able to see and exploit her opponents' strengths and weaknesses, she probably sees their moves coming before they do. Plus, she's excellent with firearms whereas Buffy, Spike and Angel seem to have a problem with them - at least they were loathe to use them despite the obvious advantages. Granted she's physically weaker, but she was able to take a punch pretty well in the movie. And last but not least she's a lot smarter.

Without weapons though I think the the raw physical strength and constitution of vamps and slayers would overpower her.

ILLYRIAN
08-19-2007, 08:15 AM
River would be most suited to fighting, mainly due to Summer being a trained dancer. River would be able to balance naturally, and because of her being able to move like liquid she is able to attack two or three places simultaneaously. Also if you look at Buffy's/Sarah's knuckles you can see that she is totally unsuited to bare fist fighting.

TabulaRasa
12-22-2007, 08:51 PM
As much as I love Buffy and it pained me to not vote for her, I had to not...I think River is. I could watch her move all day.

Keanoite
12-22-2007, 08:54 PM
It killed me to do it but I had to go with River...I saw serenity before I saw Firefly and I was just mesmerized by how she moved.

TabulaRasa
12-22-2007, 08:55 PM
I know!!!! She's incredible. I can't wait to finally see Firefly. I have only seen Serenity so far.

GATEGOD
12-22-2007, 08:59 PM
Faith. duh.
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white avenger
12-22-2007, 09:35 PM
Judging by the sequences where it is obviously the actor and not a stunt double, I have to put my money on James Marsters. His movements are more fluid, and he combines speed and balance in a way that indicates excellent potential power. Summer is a dancer, and she photographs quite well doing martial arts techniques due to her dance training, but the power just isn't there. Spike wouldn't have any trouble taking her out.

ILLYRIAN
12-23-2007, 09:05 PM
But River is a 'reader', she'd dodge any lunge that Spike could make.
I take it you didn't notice the 6 shot repeater 12 gauge that River is pointing at Spike, it might not kill him, but the bit of wood in the other hand would/wood/would.

GATEGOD
12-23-2007, 09:08 PM
Buffy can kick spike's ass, so if Spike can kick River's and he kicked Angel's that one time ^.^ ... Then Buffy would win! But since Faith can kick Buffy's Faith wins :lmao:

ILLYRIAN
12-23-2007, 10:01 PM
I can remember Spike had Buffy up against the wall, eh, what ? oh, you mean they weren't fighting. So when Buffy told Spike she wants to be on top that wasn't about fighting either ? tch tch tch naughty girl. But whenever they fought they were always interrupted, oh that was about fighting.

Thats a thought what if the story in the film is about Spike's and Buffy's baby ?

ILLYRIAN
12-24-2007, 02:48 AM
Quite so white avenger.
but then again.
Considering that Spike may be reluctant to have a church service, and because of Buffy's name letters B uffy A nne S ummers TARD comes to mind.

wiccianslayer
12-24-2007, 06:46 AM
I dunno who to vote for!

Kemy
12-24-2007, 09:45 AM
But River is a 'reader', she'd dodge any lunge that Spike could make.
I take it you didn't notice the 6 shot repeater 12 gauge that River is pointing at Spike, it might not kill him, but the bit of wood in the other hand would/wood/would.

Telepathy doesn't work on Vampires, remember "Earshot"?, so unless Spike tells her or lies down for a full cerebral scan during the fight I don't think so :D

River'd slice him up anyway.