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Chasing Cordy

08-01-2006, 05:33 PM

HeaTk

08-02-2006, 02:22 AM

well i was always a fan of spike, so him and buffy eventually grew on me.
i was way in to their crazy passion!
i agree, when spike kept quiet about dawn -- kinda saw a new side of spike!

Joamna

08-02-2006, 03:00 AM

I pretty much always liked him, but the first time I watched the show I kinda liked Angel in the beginning, but as soon as Spike appeared more and more I liked him way better. I don't know exactly when it was that I became a Spuffy fan, it was something that happend gradually from when he helped her in Becoming II to the episode Fool for Love in season 5.. or actually the love just kept growing.

zombie.apparatus

08-02-2006, 04:44 AM

I have liked the whole spuffy 'ship since season 5.. as people said spike kept his mouth shut about dawn which showed her cared for buffy.. i didnt like his obsession phase in season 6.. i think it was mostly lust than anything and buffy was using him so that wasnt a real good season for me with the whole spuffy thing.. though season 7 gave me a whole new view on spike... that made me love the spuffy ship more.... :)

Wicked

08-02-2006, 05:32 AM

I dont think Spike wanted a soul cos thats what BUffy liked about Angel. He wanted a soul so he could "be the man she deserves" It had nothing to do with Angel. She couldnt fully trust him before cos he was evil. No matter how much good he did. But with a soul he could be truely good. Be what he thought she needed.

Incidentally, I dont believe thats what she liked about Angel. True, she wouldnt have loved him without a soul (we've all seen Angelus) but thats not the reason. She loved the man he was when he had a soul. Not just because he was a vampire with a soul.

Lyri

08-02-2006, 08:37 AM

i liked Spike from his very first scene in School Hard, the one with the 'Annoying One' where he went on about feeding on a flower person at Woodstock. admittedly, during seasons 2 and 3 and leaning more towards Spike/Drusilla, i wanted them to get back together. but i know exactly when i started shipping Spuffy...Something Blue. when Willow cast the spell that made Spike and Buffy want to get married, they were so funny together when they were in love, even though it was a spell, you could easily see that it could be real. from then on, i was like, 'Riley who? Get with Spike!'
when i first saw...whatever episode Spike had THAT dream, i thought it was real! i was jumping up and down going 'Yay!!' then Spike woke up,a nd i knew what was going on. kinda bummed me out a little, that it wasn't real, but then i realized that it could lead to more, and i started to majorly love the Spuffy Ship...so much so that it became my favorite ship WAY before their first kiss in OMWF.

i'm not saying that i hated Bangel in the beginning. i hate it now, but that's because we've got Spuffy and Cangel, and those ships are so much better. looking back on Bange, i can see that they never had a very mature realtionship. he might have been 240 years old, but he was still as young as Buffy's 16/17 years. the most mature moment in the Bagel relationship, in my eyes, is during Forever, when Angel comes to see Buffy after her mother's death. thery just sit together under the tree and talk, no pressure...it's only Buffy's griefe(sp?) that makes her kiss him.

Irish Spike

12-15-2006, 05:33 PM

The moment he drove into Sunnydale. A fantastic character that just kept getting better.

Whistler

01-02-2007, 11:09 PM

When did you officially become a Spuffy fan? Was there an episode or certain point that turned you away from Angel? Did you ever like Angel whether he was with Buffy or not?

I think I learned to like Spike when he kept his mouth shut about Dawn when Glory had him (that whole "Bob Barker" scene). He showed he truly did care and want to keep Buffy and Dawn safe.

After that point, he sort of just leveled off to a likable guy but for me not as sincere as Angel.

Would Spike have wanted his soul back if Angel didn't exist? Did Spike want his soul only because he may have though Buffy liked that about Angel.

wait a second. spike didn't want his soul back. he went through all those trials and whatnot to get the chip removed, except he conveniently never said that. all he said was "give buffy what she deserves" or "turn me back the way i was". now i'm not denying that spike had alot of redeemable qualities pre-soul, but i don't think he ever wanted to get his soul back.

zombie.apparatus

01-03-2007, 01:26 AM

wait a second. spike didn't want his soul back. he went through all those trials and whatnot to get the chip removed, except he conveniently never said that. all he said was "give buffy what she deserves" or "turn me back the way i was". now i'm not denying that spike had alot of redeemable qualities pre-soul, but i don't think he ever wanted to get his soul back.

but didnt he say something about wanting to get the 'spark' back?

Whistler

01-03-2007, 04:00 PM

but didnt he say something about wanting to get the 'spark' back?

i'm pretty sure he didnt mention the "spark" untill after he got his soul back. before he got it back all he kept saying was "bitch is gunna see a change"

Lyri

01-03-2007, 06:43 PM

Spike specifically tells Buffy in S7 that he 'did it for her' referring to his soul...he got his soul back so that he could be the kind of man he thought buffy wanted. a vampire with a soul.

Whistler

01-10-2007, 06:43 PM

Spike specifically tells Buffy in S7 that he 'did it for her' referring to his soul...he got his soul back so that he could be the kind of man he thought buffy wanted. a vampire with a soul.

well sure, he's not going to tell her that what he really wanted was the chip removed so that he could become to the killer he used to be.

VisionGuy

01-10-2007, 06:45 PM

well sure, he's not going to tell her that what he really wanted was the chip removed so that he could become to the killer he used to be.

Actually Spike WOULD say that to her if that was the reason.

Lyri

01-10-2007, 06:54 PM

yeah, i'm with VG. at the beginning of S7, Buffy was really cold to Spike, and he would have taken some pleasure in telling Buffy he actually went to get the chip out, but his plan backfired.
if you watch the season from 'Lessons' to 'Chosen' you can see all the way through that Spike actually did go to get his soul back. even my best friend, who only watches BTVS because i do, and 'cause she wants to be able to discuss it with me, could see that Spike did go to get his soul back.
somebody else back us up on this!

Bored of the Dead

01-10-2007, 06:57 PM

RockManic

01-10-2007, 07:11 PM

The thing that most people seem to forget here is that if all Spike wanted was to hurt Buffy then there was absolutely no reason to go through any trials at all. He could have killed her with or without the chip in his head. It didn't activate for her.

No doubt about it. Spike went to get back his soul.

Lyri

01-10-2007, 07:13 PM

well said, Arcane.
although everybody knows what the next argument's gonna be, right? and i refuse to be the one to bring it up. lol

Bored of the Dead

01-10-2007, 07:16 PM

well said, Arcane.
although everybody knows what the next argument's gonna be, right? and i refuse to be the one to bring it up. lol

Go on, bring it up....it is your duty!!!

RockManic

01-10-2007, 07:19 PM

If you are thinking what I think you are thinking, Lyri, I'm staying well clear of that one.

Been there, debated that! :D

Lyri

01-10-2007, 07:24 PM

i'm scared to say it incase some people think i'm switching sides...but i wanna know what Arcane's thinking, so here we go, put as delicatly as i can.

some people might argue that he wanted to be more like Angelus, and go for the hurt instead of the kill...like going after her family and friends rather than Buffy herself. and for him to be able to do that, he's need the chip removed.

but he went to get his soul back!!
just making my point heard, people!

RockManic

01-10-2007, 07:31 PM

Ahh, okay, not what I thought you were thinking! :D

To answer that, I doubt it very much. Spike didn't think like Angelus and frankly didn't want to. Angelus went for the heart whereas Spike went for the head. Sure, he would have killed Willow, Xander and the others given half a chance but for a laugh, rather than to bother Buffy.

Nope. Spike wouldn't have gone through all that just to hurt Buffy by killing her friends. He would just have killed her and called it a day.

Lyri

01-10-2007, 07:34 PM

see? point proved!!

ok, then Arcane, what WERE you thinking?

RockManic

01-10-2007, 07:38 PM

see? point proved!!

ok, then Arcane, what WERE you thinking?

I had a nasty feeling that all the talk about Spike hurting Buffy was going to lead towards yet another "did Spike try to rape Buffy" debate.

Just in case anyone does think of going there again... NO HE DIDN'T! :p

Lyri

01-10-2007, 07:46 PM

nah, not getting started on this again!
that topic is over!
moving on...Angel mentions to Spike in an early ATS season 5 ep that he (Spike) seemed to get over getting his soul back a lot faster than Angel did. Anyone think there's anything to that?

RockManic

01-10-2007, 07:53 PM

Again, it's just about how different they were as people... demons... demon people... whatever!

What Angel fails to mention to Spike is that he actually "got over" his soul fairly quickly. In fact he was over it enough to be chasing Darla around for ages trying to get her back. Okay, he was having trouble biting down on new victims but he sure didn't seem to be worrying too much about what he had done up until then. Spike, on the other hand, went half mad (okay partly because of the First) with guilt.

The way it looked to me, Angel actually dealt with his guilt equally as fast as Spike. The difference was that Angel didn't have Buffy or anyone else to help get his head straight and so chose to brood. A lot!

KarrinMurphy

01-15-2007, 08:10 AM

I found him interesting from the start. Loved the snarky lines he was given and the way he delivered them. His chemistry and I don't mean sexual chemistry either was electic with all the characters. As for James , I guess he can do just about anything acting-wise.

Hel

01-18-2007, 06:30 AM

I began to watch 'Buffy' only because of Spike. When I saw him, I really couldn't change the channel)

JCC

02-17-2007, 05:13 AM

Well, the first time I saw Buffy was like the last few episodes back in 2003, and I immediately liked Spike because he was a sarcastic arse who likes to take the mick.

Then I watched Buffy from the beginning and I was like "Woo, Angel, yeah!" but then Spike came and I just found him cooler.

Nuriko

02-17-2007, 05:19 AM

I've always liked Spike but I don't like him more than I like Angel. They are on the same level. I prefer Bangel to Spuffy, that's true, but it doesn't have anything to do with them. I think Buffy makes a nice couple with both but I truely believe that she has always been in love with Angel, and that's what makes me a Bangel shipper. I do feel Spike's pain and I'm really sorry for him, but from my point of view, Buffy belongs with Angel.

Concerning Spike himself, as I said before, I like him since the first time I saw him. School Hard isn't the best episode ever but I think it's a nice character's introduction.

In season seven he kind of bothered me sometimes because he was acting like Angel (the same way Cordelia was acting like Buffy during all the Cangel stage) but I still liked him, of course.

SpuffyisEternal

02-23-2007, 06:04 PM

He's my favorite of all the characters on Buffy because of his personality, sexiness of course, and his humor.
I love him during season 4 though because he's just learning how to cope without killing anything and he finally learns he can kill demons. But I can never forget when Xander comes into the basement and Spike tells him not to look but he does anyway and we see Spike in one of Xander's "hawaiian shirts and pants." SO FUNNY!!! .lol.

Tranquillity

03-15-2007, 05:05 PM

I loved Spike from the minute he arrived on the show - that head turning thing with Dru is just so darn sexy! his addition to the cast lifted the show from good to truely great. I think the buffy/spike ship first occured to me after seeing fool for love - i just felt so sorry for him with the 'you're beneath me' in the ally and then he tried to be comforting to Buffy on the stairs of her house. it was just so nice.
I used to think buffy and Angel were very romantic but i've just watched season one again (which is not something i do regularly, i tend to watch the later seasons more often) and have to say i found the Buffy/Angel ship pretty unconvincing. firstly he is hardly in it and he's hardly ever useful. ok buffy finds him attractive and wears his jacket continuously in one episode and then we get to the episode 'Angel' and suddenly they are 'in love' with each other. i mean, its just so high-school! And the other thing i noticed was that Willow continually describes how romantic the Buffy/Angel thing is and this actually positions the audience to accept this view even though there is actually very little evidence to support this 'great romance'. I have to also admit to a certain 'ick' factor that i'd never felt for Bangle before. She's only sixteen and the age gap thing is really obvious. The age thing never really bothered me with spike, but buffy and angel seen very 'Lolita' if you get my drift. I like angel, i love him when he moves to LA - i just don't get the whole bangle 'ours is a forever love'. I'm not saying that Buffy should end up with Spike either. I really enjoyed the Buffy/spike relationship a lot because it was forever changing - i mean they move from being enemies to allies, they become friends and lovers and trusted confidant. By the end of season 7 they had a really great relationship, sort of like scully and mulder before the x-files went crappy. I'd like to see that continue.

Jade In The Sky

04-20-2007, 07:34 AM

What can I say, Tranquillity stole the words out of my mouth *grins* I think we really do share very common perceptions!

Though my story of watching BtVS and specifically of liking Spike is a complete mess due to circomstances as well as my impatience lol. I first saw Buffy while i was at High School and I so much more preferred Roswell. I disliked all the Buffy characters, including Spike. Probably because I watched it in German...Several months ago our TV aired Buffy and I got caught. Angel seemed to me good-looking but way tooo old for Buffy and I found them an unconvincing couple.

What got my interest on Spike was a preview of season five where Joss hinted about the love/hate future relationship of spuffy. They showed a scene where Spike was watching the dancing Buffy. They radiated so much sexual energy and beast-"pray" look that I thought: "OMG, I want to see how it will turn into a passion and love!"

But the moment which nailed me to Spike was the episode "Fool for love" *sighs*. I am so much into multi-dimentional characters...

From there on, i did a week marathon of watching episodes from season 6 to 5 to 7 to 4, etc, youtube watching of interviews and now my memories are a bit chaotic lol i hate being obsessed :(

SARArb

08-16-2007, 12:32 PM

You guys say all i want to say... the first time i saw him was in 'Angel' 'cause i watched all angel's seasons first and he was my second favourite character. But then, when i saw him in 'Buffy'...!!! omg.. He's so cute! Probably when he started to fall in love with Buffy... there's when he became my favourite character!!

I really love 'Buffy and Spike'... the last episode was great but.. i wished they had stayed together. :'(

white avenger

08-16-2007, 05:25 PM

I didn't really start watching Buffy until early in Season 5, so I had no preconceived ideas about the Buffy/Angel mix. By the time I started watching regularly, and started catching the syndicated earlier seasons on FX, I started wondering who the big lump was who was hanging around who I thought of as "Spike's Girl." She's been "Spike's girl" to me ever since, and Spike has always been "Buffy's Guy." I'm happy with things that way, and I see no reason to change my opinion.

spuffyluv

09-01-2007, 02:54 AM

i loved spike the first moment i saw him which was the first time he was on Buffy and i instantly loved him i mean he is super hott and the adorable British accent is a perfect touch. i also loved angel the moment i first saw him too he is also very hott and his jealousy was very cute lol. i think angel was Buffy's perfect "first love" the relationship was very cute and mushy lol but i think spike is Buffy's "true love" their relationship was full of passion in my opinion. so i love spike and buffy together my then angel and Buffy together. oh and the first time i started to like the idea of spuffy was in " Fool for Love"

palabravampiress

11-15-2007, 06:37 PM

I can't tell you when I became a Spuffy fan, although I do prefer them to Bangel.

That said, I CAN pinpoint the exact moment during which I realized that I was a Spike fan. I have writer lust for him. I wish I had invented the character. I fell in love with him as a character during the episode that begins with him having sex with the Buffybot and ends with him keeping his mouth shut about Dawn even though Glory tortures him. Both actions -- one utterly reprehensible and one incredibly noble -- are perfectly within character. He's so complex!

I always say Giles is my favorite b/c I have a huge crush on him. lol. Then I say Anya and Spike tie for second. I say that because they are just great characters. The fantasy genre was invented for just this sort of thing. These characters can really explore humanity in a meaningful way because they stretch the normal limits of humanity. They are both beautifully written!

I secretly always liked Spike before that. I loved Spike with Dru. I loved him as the wacky, impotent evil guy. I loved him as the savior of the world. But I didn't realize it until that moment.

Perhaps inevitably, I was a Spuffy fan after I realized how awesome Spike is as a character. That relationship had more depth. It meant more. Bangel, well, that was stereotypical and romantic puppy-love. I'll take the messy, real deal over the pretty ideal any day.