Dracula

[CharmedSlayer85]

My question about Dracula is what makes Dracula not a super vampire in the Buffy world, I mean as far as I know in the Seven Seasons Buffy has been on television, Dracula is the ONLY vampire that has been staked on the show TWICE and is still alive? I mean what vampire has ever done that? I mean sure Darla was staked and came back but that was through dark magicks and such, Dracula came back from his own accord, also he doesn't have the vamp face so I'd say he's harder to track if you don't know what he looks like neither do his three sisters. And I'm just wondering what makes them different that they don't have vamp face, compared to every other vampire on the planet.

[SpuffyisEternal]

It's just the typical persona of Dracula, I think they wanted to keep up the whole image of him. It wasn't correct in Buffy terms but in popular culture it was and I think it would've been weird if they had went away from that.

[Ashxking]

Ive heard from people that he dose have the "bumpy face" but uses Gypsie magick to hide it.

[white avenger]

If I remember correctly, and it's been many, many years since I read Mr Stoker's novel, it was hinted that Dracula had made a bargain with some dark power in order to achieve revenge on his enemies. That might mean that he wasn't a real vampire at all, but instead some being who shared the powers of the undead along with a few enhancements, such as being able to morph into different animal shapes and stuff like that. I definitely remember that Van Helsing killed him by driving a wooden stake through his heart, then decapitating him, filling his mouth with garlic, and burying the head at the corpse's feet. The wooden stake, incidentally, wasn't to kill him as much as to pin him to the ground while the other things were being done.

[Randy Giles]

"Buffy vs Dracula" sort of sucked. Mostly because of Dracula. The actor they chose? Terrible. He also didn't make sense in the Buffyverse.

But speaking of him not having a bumpy face...am I the only fan who thinks the vampires in the Buffyverse suck? I mean, I love Buffy and Angel, but I think the vampires are one of the most horrible fictional versions of vampires ever, aside from all the movies that they vampirism is a scientific disease.

[Chasing Cordy]

he wasn't a real vampire at all, but instead some being who shared the powers of the undead along with a few enhancements, such as being able to morph into different animal shapes and stuff like that.

If Dracula were indeed a vampire, he had to have been made one by another vampire.
So the theory of him not being a true vampire would make sense since anybody that makes "the most famous vampire" had to have been rather potent as well.

[Lyri]

The actor they chose? Terrible.

wasn't SMG's hubby. Freddie Prinz Jr. supposed to play Dracula, but he had to pull out at the last minute or something?

[white avenger]

wasn't SMG's hubby. Freddie Prinz Jr. supposed to play Dracula, but he had to pull out at the last minute or something?

Freddie Prinz would've been the worst Dracula in the history of movie/tv history! Dracula was a unique being, a one of a kind monster who embodied elegance and charm while projecting an aura of sheer ageless evil so pure as to be absolutely irresistible. He's nowhere near the actor to pull such a role off. Even Leslie Nielson and George Hamilton, in their comic portrayals of the Count did a better job. Freddie might possibly edge Xander out for the butt monkey role, but the most sinister yet charming monster in all of literature? The Cable Guy could do a better job.

[SpuffyisEternal]

wasn't SMG's hubby. Freddie Prinz Jr. supposed to play Dracula, but he had to pull out at the last minute or something?

ha that would've been an interesting twist. Plus a little romanticism between the lovely couple...:hearton:

[mogwaid]

He doesnt look like a "Dracula" type to me. And the guy who played Dracula in this episode, I agree, kinda sucked as well. I wonder if you get made into a vampire by dracula, you look like him, or you look like all the other vampires with the head bumpyness.

[eponinethen]

I started watching season 5 with a friend of mine who hadn't watched Buffy before, and she fell crazy in love with Dracula. (That's when I realised she's never be a real Buffy fan.)
This is one of my least favourite episodes and I think Dracula as a character feels like such a joke.. uh uh, not good..

[Fallen Angelus]

It's just the typical persona of Dracula, I think they wanted to keep up the whole image of him. It wasn't correct in Buffy terms but in popular culture it was and I think it would've been weird if they had went away from that.

That's fine, but that was never what Buffy did. It took classic monsters and put it's own spin on them - for example, I always felt that the Master was the show's answer to supreme vamps like Dracula.

At the very least, they should've made him correct in terms of the established mythology.

[Buffy obsessed fan]

I think the reason he wasn't killed was because he wasn't made up by the writers, and like he'll be in other things, and if he was killed on there, it would just be sort of stupid.

[Hexaphim]

While I agree that Dracula made NO sense in this episode, I actually thought the episode overall was very funny. I loved the fact that he's basically a rock star in the Slayer world, and that they're all fanboying out over him. Also: poor Xander. :)

[CharmedSlayer85]

"Buffy vs Dracula" sort of sucked. Mostly because of Dracula. The actor they chose? Terrible. He also didn't make sense in the Buffyverse.

But speaking of him not having a bumpy face...am I the only fan who thinks the vampires in the Buffyverse suck? I mean, I love Buffy and Angel, but I think the vampires are one of the most horrible fictional versions of vampires ever, aside from all the movies that they vampirism is a scientific disease.

I really liked Joss' interpretation of the vampire mythlogy the whole vampires turning into dust and vampires having the vamp face. Also I enjoy that all vampires aren't shape shifters, can levitate and fly (kind of like the Buffy movie) and read minds and all that extra crap.

[bucky01403]

I really liked Joss' interpretation of the vampire mythlogy the whole vampires turning into dust and vampires having the vamp face. Also I enjoy that all vampires aren't shape shifters, can levitate and fly (kind of like the Buffy movie) and read minds and all that extra crap.

I agree, his interpretation of vamps is perfect in the fact that he avoids the cheesiness of the stereotypical vampire. :: vampire

[Ojuice5001]

On the one hand, the concept of the episode--that the famous Dracula exists not only in his own mythology but also in the Buffyverse--is a little hard to take seriously. On the other hand, it was done pretty well.

Basically, there are many different interpretations of the vampire, and of course Buffy has only encountered her own version: the Joss Whedon interpretation. Buffy vs. Dracula is trying to throw a surprise at Buffy by having her encounter one of those other versions: a creature that is called a vampire, but follows different rules than those that normally determine what vampires are like.

This different set of rules is why Buffy just has to give up and go away when her normal wooden stake doesn't do the trick. And it could also be the reason why Buffy was so vulnerable to Dracula's hypnosis at first, but then all of a sudden snapped out of it and became totally immune. Her Slayer immunities weren't able to handle Dracula at first, but once her system got the hang of it, it was completely effective at resisting this compulsion, this alien influence from another mythology.

[Randy Giles]

Did they say whether or not Dracula was the first human vampire or not? That would possibly explain his unique abilities, or...maybe he is technically (well of course he is) a vampire, but is different from the other vampires in that he made a deal with Satan (or some other demonic entity in the Buffyverse) to get those abilities...so rather than having his soul move on and his body simply be a vessel for the vampire demon, it's actually him as well.

It would also be interesting if there were various breeds of vampires in the Buffyverse, and have Dracula be part of a rare breed or something. But that's just me.

I'm watching season five again right now, starting with this episode, and I still think the actor playing Dracula is horrendous and doesn't portray the character well at all. Also, I don't really like how he was written. Other than that, the episode is pretty funny.

But does anyone else wonder how the hell this became a season opener? It's complete filler! This is middle-of-the-season type stuff, not we're-starting-a-brand-new-year. And the *feel* of the episode is all wrong, it doesn't even feel like the same show to me. I don't know why.

[Syu]

I think Dracula looked pretty bad. They should have taken someone like Mana to play his role, hahaha !

[Black Eye Guy]

Did they say whether or not Dracula was the first human vampire or not? That would possibly explain his unique abilities, or...maybe he is technically (well of course he is) a vampire, but is different from the other vampires in that he made a deal with Satan (or some other demonic entity in the Buffyverse) to get those abilities...so rather than having his soul move on and his body simply be a vessel for the vampire demon, it's actually him as well.

It would also be interesting if there were various breeds of vampires in the Buffyverse, and have Dracula be part of a rare breed or something. But that's just me.

I'm watching season five again right now, starting with this episode, and I still think the actor playing Dracula is horrendous and doesn't portray the character well at all. Also, I don't really like how he was written. Other than that, the episode is pretty funny.

But does anyone else wonder how the hell this became a season opener? It's complete filler! This is middle-of-the-season type stuff, not we're-starting-a-brand-new-year. And the *feel* of the episode is all wrong, it doesn't even feel like the same show to me. I don't know why.

He only knew how to do that stuff because he knew Gypsy magick. There wasn't a pact with the anothing evil. And we know from season 7 that there are different breeds of Vampire!

[Bangelxx]

echh i didn't like dracula. i didnt enjoy that opening at all! lol, but yah- good representing of mythology but come on- i think joss could do better!

[Werewolf]

I did not really like the buffy dracula, i've read the book and have seen the movies and i think it fell a little short.
He was to easy to kill (well not Kill, kill you know what i mean), but of course it is buffy.. Yeah buffy can kick old dracula's butt anyday!

[GATEGOD]

I did not really like the buffy dracula, i've read the book and have seen the movies and i think it fell a little short.
He was to easy to kill (well not Kill, kill you know what i mean), but of course it is buffy.. Yeah buffy can kick old dracula's butt anyday!

Yea ^_^

She had to kick his ass, it is her show after all but he did seem 'all powerful' and stuff. He got control of Xander, and partly Buffy for a little while. And he came back from being staked!!! How many vampires can say that!

[Old Master 3.0]

Let's not forget how ridiculous ole Drac looked with those cheap, oversized teeth in his mouth. I'm surprised he didn't talk like Daffy Duck with those things in there.

[Bangelxx]

haha, yeah those teeth were pretty cheesy

[UlaGan]

And make-up was pretty obvious - all that whitened skin face. They should have casted acto of more pallid complexion.
Yet the same actor played historical Dracula in movie 'Dark Prince: The True Story of Dracula'.

Oh,l totally loved his accent. :)

Felt pity for old Drac for beaing such an easy prey for the Slayer. I did expected much more or such legendary person.
Though she didn't actually killed him, phew, just scared him off, but what a shameful defeat it was?!

[Cordelia Chase*]

Well...kinda. I liked the Buffy vs Dracula. It was different. I thought it was cool. Maybe if Joss would of kept Dracula around alittle more longer then it would of been played out more and better. But she didnt actually defeat him as he kept returning. But I think it was just to introduce the many types of vamps that lie about in the Joss's mind.

What if Dracula would of been the big bad?? WOuld it be good? bad??

[Werewolf]

Yea ^_^

She had to kick his ass, it is her show after all but he did seem 'all powerful' and stuff. He got control of Xander, and partly Buffy for a little while. And he came back from being staked!!! How many vampires can say that!


well dracula can control the weak minded.. poor xander

[Randy Giles]

Well...kinda. I liked the Buffy vs Dracula. It was different. I thought it was cool. Maybe if Joss would of kept Dracula around alittle more longer then it would of been played out more and better. But she didnt actually defeat him as he kept returning. But I think it was just to introduce the many types of vamps that lie about in the Joss's mind.

What if Dracula would of been the big bad?? WOuld it be good? bad??

Dracula....for multiple episodes?! My worst nightmare!

[The Chosen]

If Dracula wouldn't have been so corny in the show then he would have made an awesome Big Bad. 'cept we've already had two major vampiric baddies -- TM and Angelus. It would have gotten a little old, I think.

Although I can't wait for his return in the comics! :D

[UlaGan]

Dracula....for multiple episodes?! My worst nightmare!

Wellcome to Hellmouth. :) I just think it'd have been too grotesque and cliché to build entire season around Count D.
Like, there are already lots of various characters that stand up against Dracula.
One episode's just fine.

[palabravampiress]

I liked the episode. I do think they went with the cheesy approach to good old Count Vlad, but I'm not sure you could do Drac in a clever, serious way anymore. He's just been done too many times. I think the cheesy, over-the-top rock star route was really for the best. I mean, really, all you can do at this point is make a little fun.

I, personally, would like it if Buffy would encounter different types of vamps more often. What about succubi or incubi? What about Anne Rice vamps? What about Whitley Streiber vamps (with their weird cat tongues)? What about Vampirella? What about Blade's vamps with their regenerative abilities? I mean, I'm sure there would be some intellectual property issues with some of these, but Joss did give us his version and then the Nosferatu version later on. I'd like it if Whedonverse vamps were the general rule, but if Buffy met an exception every now and again.

[Kemy]

I know, I've got a small library of Vampiric literature from folklore to modern stories and there are so many varieties.

The Mara Demon of Scandinavian origin from which the word "nightmare" originates from. Almost Vampiric in how it feeds off mortal fear in sleep.

The Incubi/Succubi demons when they lustfully engorge themsevles until corporeal.

Rician Vampires where they're skin turns to armoured ivory over time and have greater telepathic abilities, moving at fantastic speeds.

I would so love to see Carmilla make an appearance, still searching for the love and attention she sought in life.

Van Helsing style tranformations on a more limited scale.

Teeth contortions, extentions and eye blackening from the Noble Dead or Dresden Files series'

Wampir/Upyr Vampires with their scorpion sting beneath the tongue instead of fangs.

Etc *takes breath*