1.01 Welcome To The Hellmouth

[Seven Of Nine]

I am re-watching Buffy from the beginning as part of a yahoo email mailing list and since I'm taking notes, I thought I would post my thoughts here too. Before posting, I will search to see if there is an existing thread before starting a new one.


I thought it was a tad funny that the teacher referenced "the fun part of the Black Plague"

When Buffy holds up the black dress to the mirror, she references it as being a slut-dress, then holds up the modest dress and says something about a copy of Watchtower... I had no idea what that was, other than opposite of slut. I had a friend with me to watch the first 2 episodes with me and luckily she was able to explain it.

When Buffy first meets Angel in the alley, it looks like the jacket he's wearing it satin. Am I hallucinating? Doesn't fit with the personality he shows us later in the show. Then again, the creepy way he acts in the first few episodes doesn't fit either.

After he walks away and she opens the case (holding the cross necklace) she was wearing a really ugly large purple ring. Didn't really seem like her style to me. I thought the white nail polish looked a little stupid too.

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Favorite Quotes:

Cordelia: Don't you have an elsewhere to be?

Buffy: Can you vague that up for me? ???

Cordelia: What is your childhood trauma?

[white avenger]

Generally, the first few episodes of any new show devote a certain amount of time to developing the stars' "look." By mid season, it's not uncommon to actually find it changed completely. I remember someone saying once that Whedon wasn't really sure just what he wanted to do with Angel at first, so the velvet coat might've been an idea that just didn't work out. Buffy started off with those mini skirts and boots, great for showing off shapely legs, but a high kick filmed from the wrong angle, and the Moral Majority is calling for the show's cancellation. White nail polish and purple ring, I didn't notice (did I mention those short skirts), but I do seem to recall Angel looking like he was wearing eye shadow, which sort of goes with the aforementioned velvet coat...

[Kryptonite]

I have the watcher's guide and it has a picture of him in a red velvet shirt; along the same lines as satin...not a good look for him. i def prefer the later angel, especially after he leaves for his own show.

[GATEGOD]

This episode was cute. I watched it yesterday, Buffy was all omg I don't want to be the slayer, and yet kicked some ass ^.^ She was great, the to be continued, is always arg grrr!! Cause you want to see what happens next, it even gave you the feeling Buffy could die. Definitely not one of my favorite eps, but it began to develop and tell us more about each character which most shows do. So it was pretty good ^_^ I loved how Xander found out about Buffy. "What?!?" he comes out from behind the book shelf after they leave, classic!!! :lmao:

[Cordelia Chase*]

Of course!! I love this episode! The High School years of Buffy were amazing to me. I dont know why, but I never pass up a chance to watch seasons 1-3.

I always thought BUffy dreesed that way because of how she was/used to be. Up-to-date. Like in the movie all the girls that hung around her dressed kinda rich/skanky. ((LOL)) BUt i liked the min skirts and the boots!!! ANd Buffy against that vamp at the end! The show had me there!!! lol

[VisionGuy]

BUt i liked the min skirts and the boots!!!

She needed to put those boots to sleep. She had no business wearing them in every episode. :no:

[Cordelia Chase*]

i always wondered how she fought in them.

[Keanoite]

She needed to put those boots to sleep. She had no business wearing them in every episode. :no:

LOL...you just wanted to use this smiley:no: didin't you?

I wasn't crazy about her Season ! wardrobe, well apart from the dress but I think she looked her best in season 2 and 7

[Cordelia Chase*]

Buffy had a baby face in season one and beginning of 2

[Keanoite]

more so in season 1...still think she looked great

[Cordelia Chase*]

yea she did...thats what i liked most about her in season one. Darla was amazing as well in this ep

[Rebecca]

I didn't like any of the outfits in season 1! Buffys mini skirts - UGH

[VisionGuy]

I think the miniskirts were okay. Just not the knee high boots. A world of no. :no: :no: :no:

[Blondie Bear]

Smiley overuse!

I think I remember hearing (probably in commentary or interviews on the DVDs) that they tried to make Buffy very young and fresh looking in the first part of the season, then realized they needed to go darker by the second season.

[Lillie]

Through season 1 you often wonder if they ever had a clue of what they were putting her on. But it was the 90s, a lot of weird things were going on then. lol!
I think it's actually really cute in the beginning, they open up real good. You get to see a bit of Willow/Xander, and then how Xander's in to Buffy immediately. I think it's a good pilot, they show a bit of every character for the audience to fall for it. At least I did, and I stayed down xD

[willow23]

Hi, i was wondering about a quote of Cordy's that I can't place. It is when she references Full Metal Jacket:

"What is your major malfunction?"

I'm pretty sure it is Season 1, or maybe 2.

Does anyone know?

[VisionGuy]

While we are on the topic of fashion, what was the deal with Buffy's push up bras??

Hi, i was wondering about a quote of Cordy's that I can't place. It is when she references Full Metal Jacket:

"What is your major malfunction?"

I'm pretty sure it is Season 1, or maybe 2.

Does anyone know?

I really don't remember that quote. Does that make me less of a fan? :(

[Keanoite]

While we are on the topic of fashion, what was the deal with Buffy's push up bras??



I really don't remember that quote. Does that make me less of a fan? :(

Yes...shame on you!....really though I looked for the ep but I can't seem to find it...it sounds like season 1 quote for some reason.

and the bra's...what to you mean?

[Rowan Hawthorn]

It's from the scene where Buffy is trying to follow Willow from the Bronze, Cordelia steps out of a doorway, and Buffy almost stakes her (good thing it was Buffy and not Faith...)

Edit:

Wait, scratch that - that's not right: that scene, Cordelia's line is "What's your childhood trauma," or something like that.

[Blondie Bear]

I don't remember ever hearing Cordy say "What is your major malfunction" (a quote to which I always have the urge to append: "Private Pile?!"), but she did say, as Rowan pointed out, "What is your childhood trauma" in "Welcome to the Hellmouth."

[willow23]

You're probably right, Blondie Bear, I just have this weird memory of her saying it. I think I sort of meshed the line from All the Way that that vampire says (what is your malfunction, man?) and Cordy saying what is your childhood trauma is Welcome to the Hellmouth.

[Keanoite]

No she definitely said it, or well it was definitely said on the show. I did a search in google for it and the first result that came up was a thread set up by N4H about 4 years ago on Buffy quotes that could be worked into everyday conversation.

[willow23]

Yeah, I saw that too, but, alas, no one seems to be able to pinpoint the quote.

[Rowan Hawthorn]

If I hadn't lost my entire collection of transcripts in a drive crash a few months ago, I could have searched them. :( I'm hoping I can recover the data from that drive, but no luck so far. (Almost twenty years hammering it into my clients' heads that they need to do regular backups, and what happens? Ay yi yi...)

[Jaded Wolf]

After seeing Cordelia for so long on the Angel series I'd forgotten how stuck up and snobbish she started out being. I watched the first episode again and was repulsed but also laughed at her. The classic scene of Cordy's snobbish attitude was after Buffy mistakenly attacked her. Cordelia whips out her cell phone and says, "Excuse me. I have to call everyone I know right now!" I couldn't help but laugh at that one.

[UlaGan]

Yeah, girl has grown up a lot since leaving SunnyDale. In my turn, I was surprised with Cordy being not so nasty, when I began watching Angel.

[Keanoite]

Yeah, girl has grown up a lot since leaving SunnyDale. In my turn, I was surprised with Cordy being not so nasty, when I began watching Angel.

after everything she went through with the Scoobies and with her Dad going bust, well she how could she not change?

[UlaGan]

after everything she went through with the Scoobies and with her Dad going bust, well she how could she not change?

Sure, that's goes beyond explanation. I was talking about personal feelings towards the Character.

[Keanoite]

Sure, that's goes beyond explanation. I was talking about personal feelings towards the Character.

Oh gotcha...for me I have always loved Cordy, apart from s4 of Angel.

[Jules]

Generally, the first few episodes of any new show devote a certain amount of time to developing the stars' "look." By mid season, it's not uncommon to actually find it changed completely. I remember someone saying once that Whedon wasn't really sure just what he wanted to do with Angel at first, so the velvet coat might've been an idea that just didn't work out. Buffy started off with those mini skirts and boots, great for showing off shapely legs, but a high kick filmed from the wrong angle, and the Moral Majority is calling for the show's cancellation. White nail polish and purple ring, I didn't notice (did I mention those short skirts), but I do seem to recall Angel looking like he was wearing eye shadow, which sort of goes with the aforementioned velvet coat...

I watched the commentary on this episode yesterday and Joss pointed out that a few things were changed with the characters. One was Xander and his skateboard. They found out that it was too difficult to show him on the board so I think he mentions that Xander is only ever seen a total of 2 times after that with the board and he's just holding it in his hands. Joss also pointed out that Willows wardrobe changes right after the first episode because the producers wanted her in something cuter...

[UlaGan]

I watched the commentary on this episode yesterday and Joss pointed out that a few things were changed with the characters. One was Xander and his skateboard. They found out that it was too difficult to show him on the board so I think he mentions that Xander is only ever seen a total of 2 times after that with the board and he's just holding it in his hands. Joss also pointed out that Willows wardrobe changes right after the first episode because the producers wanted her in something cuter...

Oh, that's really interesting. Alas, I don't have commentaries recorded, only for season 5.