Whedon's New Show - Dollhouse [Archive]

nerd4hire

10-31-2007, 10:36 PM

Holy Moly Macaroni! That is gigantic news. Joss, Eliza, and Tim Minear together.

I'm going to quote the article, and move it to Latest News and Announcements for more attention.

Best News Ever! Joss Whedon Spills Exclusive Deets on His New Series

Hear that? It's the sound of Joss Whedon fans around the world freaking the frak out. (And I am one of them!)

I'm thrilled to tell you that just this afternoon, Joss Whedon rang me up to break the news that after a long, Whedonless TV drought, we Buffy fans are finally getting another TV series created by Mr. Whedon himself. Hell. Yeah.

While you scream, hyperventilate and then (hopefully) recover, I will tell you this: The news gets even better.

Whedon's new Fox series, called Dollhouse, stars Miss Eliza Dushku, best known as Faith to you Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans. And this show isn't just a pilot. It's already been given a seven-episode commitment by Fox. Woo!

Here's how Fox describes the series:

Echo (Eliza Dushku) [is] a young woman who is literally everybody's fantasy. She is one of a group of men and women who can be imprinted with personality packages, including memories, skills, language—even muscle memory—for different assignments. The assignments can be romantic, adventurous, outlandish, uplifting, sexual and/or very illegal. When not imprinted with a personality package, Echo and the others are basically mind-wiped, living like children in a futuristic dorm/lab dubbed the Dollhouse, with no memory of their assignments—or of much else. The show revolves around the childlike Echo's burgeoning self-awareness, and her desire to know who she was before, a desire that begins to seep into her various imprinted personalities and puts her in danger both in the field and in the closely monitored confines of the Dollhouse.

So, how did Dollhouse come about? When will it start, given the impending strike? And what are the chances a few Buffy alums might make it onto the show? To find out, read on for my exclusive one-on-one Q&As with creator and executive producer Joss Whedon and star and producer Eliza Dushku. (Pinch me.) You honestly won't believe how fast this all happened, or where the idea first began!

Oh, and P.S. to all you fans of writer/producer Tim Minear (Angel, Wonderfalls, Firefly, Drive). He tells us: "Joss has pathetically begged me to be involved. And I hate to see a slightly younger man weep like a girl. So I said, 'm'kay.' I'll be playing with dolls one way or t'other."

This might be too much goodness to bear, no?!

Watch with Kristin - Best News Ever! Joss Whedon Spills Exclusive Deets on His New Series (http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=972f7d73-e0a2-43ea-abad-0abf6afba1f3)

DarklyDreamingDrusilla

10-31-2007, 11:02 PM

I cannot wait for this show it sounds great! I am so excited for Joss to be back on TV and for Eliza to be on a show with a totally new character.

Buffy Summers

10-31-2007, 11:07 PM

(This in no way will prevent me from watching or enjoying the show but) makes me think of Dark Angel

Edit:

PS We have a time frame on it yet?

nerd4hire

10-31-2007, 11:55 PM

Kind of a Time Frame. Depends on whether, or not there's a writer's strike. Joss and Eliza have been sitting on this for a month while they hammer a deal out with Fox. She's getting a producer credit.

Whedon has already hammered out the basic outline for all seven segs. Barring a strike, Fox hopes to have the show in production by spring, giving the net an opportunity to be so far ahead of schedule by fall that it could potentially air a full season uninterrupted by breaks. Long lead time also gives Whedon, as well as the net and studio, plenty of time to evolve the show if need be.

Joss Whedon preps Fox series - Entertainment News, TV News, Media - Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975136.html?categoryid=14&cs=1)

Buffy Summers

11-01-2007, 12:24 AM

Now, the big question: Do you think Joss will hire me to work on it? :D

alexa

11-01-2007, 02:15 AM

This is really awesome! Thanks for posting this, lifted the end of my day. :D

Canon

11-01-2007, 03:36 AM

This is gonna be awesome! Joss....Eliza......could we ask for more? :D

Wanabee-slayer

11-01-2007, 06:25 AM

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! OMG!!!! I am SOOOOOO excited I think I may actually die from excitement!!! I can't actually type lol! My brain has gone into overload!!!!!!!!!!!!

goldenboy

11-01-2007, 08:20 AM

Sounds like a blast. Sounds very comic book...like Fantasy Island and Alias on steroids. And it's taking full advantage of Eliza's talent. Damn.

If the suits at FOX screw this show I'm gonna hurt someone.

elmo

11-01-2007, 08:46 AM

Wow... can't wait. I'm with goldenboy on this one. Commitment-shmitment! If Fox wanna axe something they just do it... I just hope they don't. No doubts about the quality of the show though... I'm sure it's gonna rock socks.

NightBird

11-01-2007, 09:09 AM

Fangasam!!!!

Ok, so if id fallen asleep, i would have dreamt about this show.

Lyri

11-01-2007, 09:36 AM

*falls off chair*

this is the best news i could have possibly had today...well, realistically, anyway! lol

this is fantastic, Joss and Eliza working together, plus Minear. CAN'T. WAIT.

goldenboy

11-01-2007, 09:56 AM

I wonder how FOX is gonna play this. This actually sounds like a much easier sell to the general public than Firefly. Just flash Eliza's mug on the screen in the promos, for one thing.

They could pair it up with Bones maybe. Or Sarah Connor, if that's still around and on in the Fall. I cannot fathom them shoving this off to Fridays or something (even FOX couldn't be that brain dead. Well, actually...).

Allycat

11-01-2007, 10:42 AM

There's a whole lot of YAYs and a couple of NAYs about this news. Mostly, there's questions though.

Of course, Joss, Tim, Eliza all on one show, that's a lot of YAY right there! The plot sounds intriguing enough. Question though: are we talking Chuck or Alias?

Then of course there's the concern that this is FOX we're talking about. I can't help but feel that this is one of those shows that gonna get the axe pretty quickly, considering the premise. Don't get me wrong, I think Joss'll turn it into one of the greatest series ever, BUT will it lure in the right audience for FOX?

My biggest concern by far is that Joss' plate is pretty full right now and I'm afraid that maybe he's gonna bite off of more than he can chew. He's executive producing After the Fall and Buffy Season Eight, and he will be writing for it. There were some talks about another volume of Fray and there's that new Serenity comic coming up... or has he already finished writing that? Then there's Runaways. Luckily, he's wrapping up on Astonishing X-Men. Oh, and wasn't there supposed to be a horror-movie to end all horror-movies "Cabin in the Woods"? Ripper is already on shaky grounds. I wonder how much other projects are gonna have to make sacrifices to allow him to do Dollhouse.

Of course, I hope that Dollshouse is gonna kick ass and I hope that it'll be a success, but I also hope that it's not gonna detract him from his work on Buffy-related ventures.

Old Master 3.0

11-01-2007, 11:09 AM

^ Exactly. What he said.
And I'd feel a lot better if this project didn't involve FOX (remove the letter "O" and insert a "U" for a more accurate network monicker).
I wouldn't want the good Mr. Whedon's possible sacrificing of current and future projects to be for naught.
I am with Goldenboy in that violence shall be perpetrated if JossGod gets the shaft again. There will be blood...oh yes....there WILL be blood.
Let us all hope for the very best here.

And well done sk8rj04 for bringing this news to light. :: tu ::

goldenboy

11-01-2007, 11:30 AM

...a hefty license fee between $1.5 million and $2 million per ep...

"We call it a suspense-drama-mythology-comedy-action-horror musical," Whedon half-jokes of the show, which will bend and blend genres in typical Joss fashion. "The main thrust is the thruline of Echo as a sort of newly born character who goes, 'Wait a minute — I exist. Wow. So who would I be? And how dangerous is it for me to let anybody know that I know that I exist?' Not unlike the Frankenstein myth, it's, 'Who made me, who am I, and why am I?'"

Sounds like Dushku has already bonded with her alter ego. "She's fierce and she's hot, but she's also so complex, and she's going to be so tripped out because she's in this world, which I can identify with, where there are people who can click a button and succeed in making you be what they want you to be. It's this whole mindtrip of objectification," she says. "It's going to have sex and heartbreak and violence and hilarity. That, to me, is a hot show."
Joss Whedon taps Eliza Dushku for new Fox series | TV Biz | Hollywood Insider | EW.com (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/10/whedon-returns-.html)

nerd4hire

11-01-2007, 02:25 PM

I can't believe I'm going to do this, but I am so much in denial mode to any negativity on this I'm going to defend Fox.

Yes Fox was quick on the trigger finger with Wonderfalls, and Firefly, should've shown more patience with Tru Calling and Dark Angel, screwed the screening order up on Firefly and The Inside, banished Firefly and Dark Angel to it's personal death zone of Friday nights, flipped Tru Calling about to hidden time periods without promotion, has shown a recent tendency to attack the fan movement, and failed to promote a lot of shows properly, but Fox is also the network that takes chances on novel stuff, brought back Family Guy, and stuck by Arrested Development when other networks would have dumped it.

I'm encouraged by the story of what happened when Eliza brought Joss through the door at Fox studio to pitch the pilot. Fox says they've been trying to seduce Joss to do something for some time, and were just big smiles freaked when Eliza presented him. You've got to remember Eliza just signed a production deal with Fox for new shows into the future. They have an investment. Joss says he always had good relations with the production end of Fox, and the network guys aren't the same ones who screwed the pooch with Firefly. Fox didn't just sign on for the pilot. They signed for seven shows. I don't know if that's unprecedented, but if that kind of thing happens it's never made it as far as my personal ears . Joss and Eliza are optimistic as to Fox being on their side with this one, and if there's two people who have the right to be cautious regarding Fox those are them.

Concerning the critique of Joss being over-committed to other projects, I think people are missing a key element of this deal. He's bringing in Tim Minear. This isn't Marti Noxon who took over Buffy seasons 6 and 7 and did Point Pleasant. This is Tim frickin Minear of Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls. TM can showrun with the best of them. Dollhouse is precisely Tim's kind of show. This is the guy who cut his writing teeth on X Files. X Files is the well from which all this kind of stuff springs.

goldenboy

11-01-2007, 02:57 PM

It all does sound encouraging. Here's to hoping FOX had a reflective moment or two, promotes the hell out of this thing, and doesn't turn into a Nervous Nellie if times get tough.

How involved will Minear be, I wonder. What happens to Miracleman?

Also...I'm really curious about "Echo". I haven't seen Eliza portray much besides streetwise tough girls. She did a good Buffy impersonation in "Who Are You". Tru Davies was written pretty blandly, IMO. Trying to imagine her portray a wide-eyed innocent "child". Ewan McGregor actually did a pretty hilarous take on this same basic character type in The Island.

Jackal

11-01-2007, 07:35 PM

Miracle Man's still a go. I believe Tim's consulting on Dollhouse for the time being. Hopefully his style of consulting will look a lot like writing.

And also: Dollverse - Welcome to the Dollhouse - Home (http://www.dollverse.com)

alexa

11-01-2007, 07:47 PM

I am with Goldenboy in that violence shall be perpetrated if JossGod gets the shaft again. There will be blood...oh yes....there WILL be blood.
Let us all hope for the very best here.

lol, yeah I mentioned something similar on another board. The fans would go nuts and storm FOX :p
I find it weird that people are concerned about Joss' schedule to... And as far as I know he's always had a lot on his plate, and Tim Minear... woot ;)

Randy Giles

11-01-2007, 08:19 PM

According to one of the stories out there, I think Michael Aussiello at TV Guide, if there's not an immediate writers strike the show will probably premiere midseason 2008, as in THIS season. (Like how FOX greenlit Drive so late last season.) Which means they could premiere it at the end of March (lots of midseason shows premiere in March), and hopefully they'll schedule it after American Idol for the duration of the seven episodes.

But from what I read, I'm assuming if there IS a strike and the episodes aren't written soon the show will just be pushed back until next season.

Senior Watcher

11-01-2007, 08:44 PM

as the comic book store guy from the simpsons would say, "best, news, evvver."

sk8rj04

11-01-2007, 08:56 PM

i think Eliza will have a lot of say in the show as well. It wasn't just Joss who created it. He came up with the idea in the restroom [which is pretty frakkin hilarious, btw] and they talked about it after he pitched it to her. I think Eliza, having done multiple shows and movies, will be good with the consulting and producing. And this is Joss Whedon we're talking about. He was doing 3 shows at one time. [granted, FOX killed one show, and then the WB another.] I can't wait to hear more about it. And I can't wait to see it. If it comes out next season. This is number one on my 'to watch' list. I'm also still reeling from the fact that Joss is STILL considering Ripper after 5 or so years of thinking about it. Maybe one day, We'll see good 'ole Giles on air again.

Your Creamy Coolness

11-01-2007, 08:59 PM

I am excited. It sounds good. Still at the end of the day I will have to see it before I can pass a good or bad judgement. I still want a Buffy movie...though...and a show will tie him up for years....but heres to hoping its a sucess and its good..

MrGordo

11-01-2007, 11:14 PM

OMG!! I actually started screaming (out of excitement, not fear haha) when I read this, and my brother was like 'what the hell are you doing?" and then when I told him he went nuts too (we're both obsessive Whedon/Eliza fans) I can't believe it! this is HUGE, best news I've heard since Serenity was announced! I just can't wait until we have more information on this, I mean think of the possibilities! there could be cameos from anyone in the whedonverse! and some Buffy/Angel/Firefly writers are going to be involved! woow I think I'm going now, I need some air. :o

EDIT: What happened?? I didn't click 'post' more than one time! someone help! delete all the other posts please.

EDIT:OH good they're gone! I don't know how, but THANKS!

Old Master 3.0

11-02-2007, 12:14 AM

According to Whedonesque.com, there is now a fan-run website for "Dollhouse"....with links to the MySpace, Facebook and LiveJournal sites......

Dollverse - Welcome to the Dollhouse - Home (http://www.dollverse.com/)

crabby patty

11-02-2007, 01:34 PM

OMG I am so excited. But I dont really get what its about??

goldenboy

11-02-2007, 02:05 PM

I get the idea that Echo's a 'blank slate' and can be programmed to be a character...but she can't truly become a specific someone from a client's past, can she? There's no physical transformation...

nerd4hire

11-02-2007, 02:09 PM

OMG I am so excited. But I dont really get what its about??

As I understand it, it goes something like this. Imagine you wake up each morning in a kind of dormitory. As far as you know this is your reality. You eat, sleep, and breath there. As far as you know it's all there is. Then you start getting flashes. Flashes of yourself a master of everything from Kung Fu to Kama Sutra. You slowly remember bits of events taking place in a much larger, more evil, and dangerous world.

It turns out there is a secret organization intermittently loading knowledge, and muscle memories into the thing that is you, then sending you off to satisfy the fantasies of the ultra-rich. When you return to the Dollhouse you've forgotten everything, or at least that's what's supposed to happen.

Now that's a concept rife with possibilities.

MrGordo

11-02-2007, 05:19 PM

The idea of the Dollhouse kinda reminds me of The Island (the film with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson) but not only because of the concept but also because Ewan McGregor's character was called "Lincoln Six Echo" coincidence?

Randy Giles

11-02-2007, 06:07 PM

nerd4hire

11-02-2007, 08:31 PM

Lincoln Six Echo would be call signs for L6E wouldn't they? Meaning L6E is his serial number. 2 different things.

alexa

11-02-2007, 09:46 PM

Imagine you wake up each morning in a kind of dormitory. As far as you know this is your reality. You eat, sleep, and breath there. As far as you know it's all there is. Then you start getting flashes. Flashes of yourself a master of everything from Kung Fu to Kama Sutra. You slowly remember bits of events taking place in a much larger, more evil, and dangerous world.

It turns out there is a secret organization intermittently loading knowledge, and muscle memories into the thing that is you, then sending you off to satisfy the fantasies of the ultra-rich. When you return to the Dollhouse you've forgotten everything, or at least that's what's supposed to happen.

Now that's a concept rife with possibilities.

That was so brilliantly articulated. You should be doing their promos!
This concept leaves a lot of space for the whole female against the big patriarchy.

MrGordo

11-03-2007, 03:37 AM

Lincoln Six Echo would be call signs for L6E wouldn't they? Meaning L6E is his serial number. 2 different things.

Yes definitely!
its just that it seemed really odd that the show reminded me of two things one is the Island and the other Dark Angel, and one of them actually had a striking similarity, but I think it is most certainly a coincidence!

I think the name Echo is really appropriate for Eliza's character, seeing as one of the meanings of the word echo is "be reminiscent of or have close characteristics" and that's what the character is about, I mean she gets imprinted with these personality traits that can turn her into anything but she is not an action hero or a stripper (or whatever traits she gets imprinted with) so therefore she is the echo of these personalities not the real deal. (I think my explanation is really sucky but I hope you understand what i mean haha)

nerd4hire

11-03-2007, 03:48 AM

Here's what Joss had to say about that sort of thing.

TVWeek: "Heroes" recently added a character who’s sort of like Echo, in that she can instantly learn any ability. Did that give you an "uh-oh" moment?

Whedon: I didn’t actually know that. I was fine until now. Thanks a lot. One of the first rules of a pilot, you will see everything you are doing somewhere else the year before you do it. I saw "Bionic Woman" and I was like, "Oh, I better change my thing." I like to think that means you’re smack dab in the middle of the zeitgeist. The real thing that’s important is what do you have to say about that person. And what I have to say is never what somebody else has to say. On "Buffy," all the hoariest old tropes—the evil twin, the Monkey’s Paw—what’s important is what you have to say about it.

James Hibberd - Joss Whedon Returns to Fox With New Series 'Dollhouse' - TVWeek - Blogs (http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/10/joss_whedon_returns_to_fox_wit.php)

eponinethen

11-03-2007, 08:14 AM

I actually started crying when I read this the other day. Nothing could have made me any happier. Kinda.

FaithFan2005

11-03-2007, 06:41 PM

I think it is great that there will be a new show and it will have Eliza Dushku to boot!!

StuckinTraffic

11-05-2007, 10:48 PM

I'm sitting on the skeptical fence concerning FOX's involvement, but I'm not so far gone that I can't hold out hope. *fingers crossed* and an OM FREAKING GAWDDDD!

Seven Of Nine

11-06-2007, 01:44 PM

different version of a previous announcement

Ausiello Report
Eliza Dushku Lures Joss Whedon Back To TV

Short of a Buffy the Vampire Slayer reunion movie, this is just about the best news you could ask for: Eliza Dushku and Joss Whedon are reteaming for a new series! (Told ya it would be worth tearing yourself away from the candy corn to drop by The Ausiello Report.) Here are the five things you have to know about the show, and I mean now:

1. It's a one-hour drama produced by Twentieth Century Fox to air on Fox. The first of the seven episodes to which the network has committed could premiere as early as spring.

2. It's called Dollhouse because that's the nickname of the high-tech lab where a group of human chalkboards are kept between assignments.

3. Human chalkboards?! Yes! What else would you call characters like Dushku's Echo who can be given new memories, skills and even personalities, then stripped of them just as quickly, leaving them virtual children?

4. Whedon is the creator, head writer and executive producer, and perhaps in part because Dushku convinced him to do the show, she's getting a producer credit. (Fellow Buffyverse alum Tim Minear is also on board.)

5. I just got off the phone with both of them!

First things first: How in the hellmouth did Dushku get her Buffy and Angel boss to do it? In a word, food. Shortly after she signed a development deal with Fox in August, "I called the one man that I knew I wanted to do [a series] with and had to have [in order to] to have the best show possible" and invited him to lunch, she says. "And he was seduced!"

Actually, hypnotized, Whedon counters. "Eliza was wearing a hat with a big spiraling wheel on it, and she kept saying, 'Look into the wheel. You want to make television. You want it to be about me….' It sounds hokey, but it really worked."

And how. Not only did Dushku get Whedon to agree to work on the project, but what she calls their "contagious, freaky, awesome energy" at that very get-together inspired him to create it. "I came up with [the concept] at lunch completely spontaneously, based on my conversation with Eliza," he insists. "It wasn't [an idea] that I was nurturing or that I tailored or I tried to retro-fit to her."

So what is the concept, exactly? Explains Whedon: "Dollhouse is a suspense drama about a girl who can have any personality except her own." So it's part Alias and part Quantum Leap, "because Echo is literally changing who she is," he continues. "She gets into people's lives a little bit."

Even Dushku's. "I relate so much to this character," she marvels. "Echo is essentially the story of my life. I've lived a crazy life the past 16 years, traveling around the world and then tripping and falling into this business. Everyone wants you to transform and be a different person every week."

Great chemistry and intriguing premise notwithstanding, you'd think that after Fox snuffed Whedon's Firefly and hung up on Dushku's Tru Calling, one or both of them would have been more than a little hesitant to get back into bed with the network. "Honestly? Walking back into that building was pretty damn strange," Whedon admits. But "I always had a good relationship with [Twentieth Century Fox], and on the network end, it's a completely new bunch of people, and from what I've seen, a fairly impressive bunch."

Dushku seconds that emotion. "I really get the sense that they're committed to [this show]… It feels right."

Besides, as Whedon notes, "I told them I was interested in writing a pilot, and they gave me seven episodes. They've already shown more support for it than I have."

Now it's your turn to show the comeback kids some love. And, like Dushku, I don't think you'll let them down. "We have the best fans in the business [in the] the Buffy and Whedon universe," she says. "It's going to be pandemonium when this [news] hits." And it's only just begun.
— Additional reporting by Ben Katner

link to the TV Guide article (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Eliza-Dushku-Lures/800026169)

Old Master 3.0

11-09-2007, 12:03 PM

Well, we all knew it was inevitable at this point. Let's all hope this strike mess is sussed out sooner rather than later.........

Joss Whedon: No welcome to the "Dollhouse," for now.

A week ago, Joss Whedon was celebrating Fox’s seven-episode pickup of “Dollhouse,” his new drama starring Eliza Dushku.

But this Wednesday, Whedon hit the picket line, even while fighting a cold and sipping chicken soup from a thermos.

“I have no conflict about this,” said Whedon, whose new creation will now be put on hold. “It’s not hard for me. The issues we’re talking about are so crucial.”

Whedon said he believed the studios were “hungry” for a strike.

“This is a chance for them to break us,” Whedon said. “I don’t know their reasoning for not wanting to pay (Internet residuals). I understand they have to take a firm stand.”

But Whedon said he didn’t think the percentage of Internet revenue the writers are asking for is unreasonable.

“If they don’t get anything, we don’t,” he said. “The only way we make a lot of money off this is if they make a huge amount of money.”

-- Michael Schneider

Source: Entertainment news, movie reviews, awards, festivals, celebrity photos, industry events - Variety (http://weblogs.variety.com)

Randy Giles

11-11-2007, 03:42 PM

It doesn't really bother me that much that the strike will probably put "Dollhouse" on hold until next fall (I'm hoping it will be over by January) because a fall launch would mean more promotion...but then again I'd just as rather them hold it off for January 2009 if it meant they would air it behind "American Idol".

GATEGOD

11-11-2007, 08:15 PM

Great news but I'd rather be watching new Angel, Buffy, or firefly.

sreeja

11-14-2007, 03:43 AM

I am surprised to know it.I can't wait for the show.

palabravampiress

11-15-2007, 11:23 AM

This is some of the best news ever!

Right now, I am shaking in my boots over the thought that the writer's strike might do in my beloved soap operas. This news was just what I needed. A new Joss show might - might - make a soapless world a little more bearable. Of course, the best of both world could also happen: soaps stay on the air AND we get a new Joss show.

I've decided not to be negative about this. I'll give Fox a second change. Yeah, they did Joss wrong with Firefly. But maybe they'll learn from that with Dollhouse.

We know we get Joss and Tim. Any other favorite scribes you'd like to see brought on board? I, personally, am a fan of Jane Espenson.

goldenboy

11-15-2007, 01:23 PM

We know we get Joss and Tim. Any other favorite scribes you'd like to see brought on board? I, personally, am a fan of Jane Espenson.

Jane would be great. This would be a good forum for her goofy fantasy kinda stuff. How about Drew Goddard. Brian K. Vaughan.

I wonder if and how the writers strike will shake up the writing teams on all the various shows.

JollyApe

11-16-2007, 07:49 AM

I wonder if the writers strike will put a stop to this alltogether.

Otherwise like goldenboy said I'd love to see Jane writing for this, it would be ideal for her. Granted I don't know what the feel of the show is going to be, but I'm hoping it will have more of a quirky yet dark side and not feel too much like Dark Angel, something I for some ungodly reason fear it will do.

eponinethen

11-17-2007, 03:41 AM

Jane would be great. This would be a good forum for her goofy fantasy kinda stuff. How about Drew Goddard. Brian K. Vaughan.
I agree about Jane Espenson but mainly, I want Brian K. Vaughan, of course :)

Buffy obsessed fan

11-17-2007, 04:40 AM

Sounds awesome. And *I* sound wacky, when I read it I squeled [sp] and my family think I'm weird :p Anywho, can't wait for it to come on. I just hope it'll be on a TV channel I have, because I wanted to see Bones when it came out but we don't have Sky1 *prays it's on a channel I have* :p

sreeja

12-11-2007, 03:54 AM

I can't wait for it.Whedon's new Fox series, called Dollhouse, stars Miss Eliza Dushku, best known as Faith to you Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans. And this show isn't just a pilot. It's already been given a seven-episode commitment by Fox. Woo!

chrismferguson

12-13-2007, 04:03 AM

I can't wait till this ****ing strike ends so Whedon can rule television once again. Lately everyone's been just doing what Whedon did during Buffy.

Jaded Wolf

01-11-2008, 03:29 PM

Let's just hope FOX doesn't screw around with Joss like they did with him and Firefly. FOX, my sniper rifle is set on you! :coolman:

Randy Giles

01-12-2008, 06:28 PM

I'd love to see tons of old Buffy/Angel people return.

Joss, Tim, Marti, Brian K Vaughn, Jane, etc.

They should just all remain together and do tons of shows together. Dollhouse, a Faith spin-off, and more. :)

Buffy Summers

01-12-2008, 06:34 PM

What show is BKV doing now?

Randy Giles

01-12-2008, 06:57 PM

He was on Lost during season three, dunno if he's still on for season four.

Faith

01-13-2008, 02:42 PM

While i'm really glad that we have a Joss project to get excited about i'm not quite sure on what I think on this one.

Its a certain i'll watch the first few eps to see how it goes but its not making me all jump in my seat. Yes I know i'll be strung up for this but i'm a bit 'meh' about it.

Chances are that will change but for now i'll see how it develops.

GATEGOD

01-13-2008, 02:47 PM

I was a bit 'meh' about it too, but then I realized the other things Joss has been on.

I've loved nearly all of them so I'm game for anything he comes up with.

Faith

01-13-2008, 02:51 PM

Of course I was big on his other work (although I admit to watching Firefly too late but adoring it so much) seeing as i'm registered here and all.

But as i've got older and my taste as developed and taken new turns i'm not into the same things as I once was. But as a Buffy fan any Joss related actor gets my support. Will not judge until i've seen it, I learned my lesson from slating Moonlight then adoring it.

GATEGOD

01-13-2008, 02:55 PM

I've yet to see that :) I thought it was going to be weird but everyone has told me it's amazing.
I'll have to check it out! And yea I missed Firefly when it was first on but eventually saw it and loved it!
Hopefully this time I can actually watch Dollhouse when it starts and love it from the beginning to the end.

FaithyFivebyFive

01-13-2008, 05:31 PM

I love Joss' style and vision for anything I create, so I'm sure I'll love Dollhouse. Though, you never know... I might not like it as much as everything else, but how could I not... Eliza!

Randy Giles

01-13-2008, 05:48 PM

I will probably like it more than Firefly, at least. I mean, take all the greatness of Alias, add in Eliza Dushku, Joss Whedon, and Tim Minear, and you have a freaking masterpiece.

Bangelxx

01-14-2008, 04:22 PM

i can't wait for this new whedon show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!!!

GATEGOD

01-14-2008, 04:29 PM

Any Idea when exactly this is going to come on? I know with the writer's strike and everything else that's happening etc.,
But when will we be able to see it? Or are we in the dark at the moment?

Randy Giles

01-14-2008, 05:33 PM

Most likely in the fall if the strike ends soon, or maybe midseason. No one will know until the upfronts. Although there's talk that there won't be any May upfronts this year.

FaithyFivebyFive

01-15-2008, 05:13 AM

I hope the strike ends soon! More episodes of Lost need to be shot... Though I do understand to point and all.

I can't wait to see some frest writing from the J-man, and he knows Eliza so he'd write well for her!

Peter

01-20-2008, 12:08 AM

I haven't read all this thread, however I'm pleased Eliza's in it, I think she got a really bum deal with Tru calling, I love that show and was really disappointed with its ending, or lack of one

Dlou444

01-20-2008, 12:46 AM

I was finding myself thinking of poor Xander the other day after seeing him on some random movie on Sci-Fi.
It would have to be done well (which we know Joss can do) but, I'd really like it if he could find a nice place for little Nicky in the Dollhouse. Maybe not right off, but a way to drag him in. He needs to be back on TV and not just on late nice Sci-Fi Channel and cartoon voices. Besides, he and Eliza have an amusing chemistry.

GATEGOD

01-20-2008, 12:52 AM

Peter

01-20-2008, 10:54 AM

Or James Marsters bad ass and cool in everything he's in. I only say this cause I just saw Torchwood and he was GREAT. I'd love to see 'Xander' on t.v. again. I haven't seen him in anything but Buffy. I've seen every other cast member in atleast one other project , actually quite a few.. alot... not him though.

he was alright in torchwood, but he was basically just playing spike, he was exactly the same, down to his English accent, which is interesting as he's not English, I half expected him to try and bite people and ask where Buffy is.
infact he told torchwood that they need a blonde in their group, I'm sure that was a little nod at Buffy.

it annoys me when people play the same character all the time, like david in Bones, apart from the fact he's not a vamp, he's exactly the same character again

WhiteHat

01-20-2008, 12:11 PM

it annoys me when people play the same character all the time, like david in Bones, apart from the fact he's not a vamp, he's exactly the same character again

Ahem. Well, that's more indicative of poor acting.
James is a far better actor than Dave, so I'd expect a greater thespic range from the former. *ducks hailstorm of vegetables*

Keep in mind David was a model IIRC before he was hired for Buffy, whereas James was an actor to begin with, right?

As for this show Dollhouse, I'd love to watch it and see where it goes. To be a success, it has to have a strong ENSEMBLE cast with well-delineated characters, and not get into a dangerous loop, like Tru Calling.

palabravampiress

01-20-2008, 01:45 PM

Ahem. Well, that's more indicative of poor acting.
James is a far better actor than Dave, so I'd expect a greater thespic range from the former. *ducks hailstorm of vegetables*

Keep in mind David was a model IIRC before he was hired for Buffy, whereas James was an actor to begin with, right?

As for this show Dollhouse, I'd love to watch it and see where it goes. To be a success, it has to have a strong ENSEMBLE cast with well-delineated characters, and not get into a dangerous loop, like Tru Calling.

I tend to agree about JM being a better actor than DB. I'm not saying DB's a bad actor; I'm just saying that I think part of the reason that JM's character changed so much was because JM had the necessary range as an actor. They threw him a lot of the toughest scenes. I think there's a reason for that. DB had a lot of quality material to work with, too, and the men's scenes together were often truly hilarious. I think they played off of one another beautifully. But JM could deliver the more complex performances. I think JM could have played Angel, but I don't think DB could have played Spike.

As far as Dollhouse goes, I really don't want to see either JM or DB or NB or, really anyone from Buffy. Is that weird? I don't want Dollhouse to be a love letter to Buffy. I want it to be entirely different and exciting, like Firefly was.

Dlou444

01-20-2008, 04:58 PM

I want it to be entirely different and exciting, like Firefly was.

But the actors crossed over after it was gone and it worked nicely. I think Joss is quite good at morphing actors into totally different people. Maybe NB could be EVIL!

GATEGOD

01-20-2008, 05:03 PM

I liked seeing Jonathan M. Woodward in Angel, Buffy, and Firefly. I'd love to see him again. (Knox,Holden,Tracey)

Dlou444

01-20-2008, 05:22 PM

I liked seeing Jonathan M. Woodward in Angel, Buffy, and Firefly. I'd love to see him again.

True, but the poor boy never seems to fair very well. I'm not sure Joss actually LIKES him.: erm :

GATEGOD

01-20-2008, 05:35 PM

True, but the poor boy never seems to fair very well. I'm not sure Joss actually LIKES him.: erm :

He has to like him to put him in his three coolest shows.. or :lmao: he just puts him in them to kill him off.. hahaha that would be mean.

Randy Giles

01-20-2008, 10:18 PM

I don't think David Boreanaz plays Booth like Angel. Booth is a pretty light character, he's nothing like dark, brooding Angel. Sorry.

I think James Marsters would be cool to see on Dollhouse. Nicholas Brendan...eh, no, I don't see him being a good fit.

Buffy Summers

01-20-2008, 10:36 PM

Agreed - I don't see Booth and Angel to be similar...

GATEGOD

01-20-2008, 11:05 PM

I watched a few episodes of Bones :p I liked him in it but , no I didn't see him as Angel like. But maybe that's just cause I've only seen a dozen or less eps.

Dlou444

01-21-2008, 02:21 PM

It's not so much that he's JUST alike, it's the undertone.
He's a lot "happier" in Bones, but that's more writing. It's how he plays the happy vs. broody. Like he just levels out. When he's happy, it's like seeing Angel happy and when he's broody, it's like seeing Angel broody and when he gets mad, I expect bumpy face. Maybe the character just isn't much different.
I refer Nathan Fillion. Even just between Buffy and Firefly he was almost unrecognizable as the same actor. Which was a happy point for me because Caleb scares the crap out of me. Gina, on the other hand, although her character was WAY different on Firefly and then on Angel, there was the "strong, knowing silence" thing in both of them. And it took me a lot longer to warm up to her on Firefly. I wasn't expecting her face to turn into maggots exactly, but there was still this feeling of "distrust".

I've been watching JM on Without A Trace and forgiving the hair and accent, he is unrecognizable too. I have to tape it and rewind to catch glimpses of Spike.

DB is a good actor. He's quite likable. And perhaps he just picked a role that requires a similar acting style. Because he still has to play kinda goofy, sometimes broody, occasionally attacking the "bad guys" in dark and dingy places while very angry, and deal with unspoken attraction...and he plays those like in Angel. I am happy to see him get to pull out the goofy card more than in Angel.

But now we're WAY off topic....we should probably ease back to the point as to not confused any newbies!