Who Do You Think the Big Bad is? (Major spoiler for current issue # 9)

[nerd4hire]

Here he is then. Twilight.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/TwilightNo91.jpg

OK so I'm going to say the font is like something for a character out of an epic poem.

He's wearing some kind of battle armour. Some are going to say ninjaesque, I'll bet.

I'm going to go in a different direction. I've been thinking there's been some hints at norse mythology in Season 8. I think Thricewise is a reference to the Jotund giants. Trafalgar reminds me of dwarfs from stuff like Grieg's Peer Gynt. You know - Hall of the Mountain King.

So with that in mind the first thing I thought of when I saw Twilight was Loki. Specifically Loki from the comic The Mighty Thor. There's something called Ragnorok in Norse Mythology. It's the final apopalyptic battle of the Gods. In the comic Loki is the leader of the other side. Ragnorak is also called Twilight of the Gods.

Well maybe not exactly Loki, but something Loki-ish, I think.

That's one opinion, anyway. Got something better?

If not Loki, or a Loki clone I thought it could maybe be a woman. That would be tricky.

Hey, how'd he get Spike's jacket? ;)

[Tranquillity]

Hey, how'd he get Spike's jacket? ;)

I thought the exact same thing as i read the final page. I like your norse mythology theory. it's very clever. I was just thinking that he (she? it?) looked like those robot things in Angel's "Lineage".

[Ashxking]

Im going for a rouge Watcher. Someone who knows the dangers of magic and what it can do. A person who wants to rid the world of demons once and for all.

[Clem Rocks]

Hey, how'd he get Spike's jacket? ;)

Seeing as it's being hinted that in issue two of After The Fall, Spike's in hell, i'd say it's Twilight that sent him there, stole his coat, and went off to go after the Slayers

And seeing as you think it might be a woman, maybe it's Nikki Wood getting her coat back ;)

[Allycat]

Like I said in the official discussion thread for #9, I think Twilight looks a bit like The Redeemer from Spawn (but without the wings) or Darth Revan from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

I still very much doubt that the person beneath the mask is someone we know. On the one hand, it could make for an emotional reveal when we find out who it really is, but on the other hand, like some of this month's letter said, the shouldn't be rehashing old stories all the time.

What struck me as very important is "bringing the age of magic to a close"... could this have anything to do with Fray possibly?

[goldenboy]

Here he is then. Twilight.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/TwilightNo91.jpg

OK so I'm going to say the font is like something for a character out of an epic poem.

The font looks fairly Celtic (http://www.discovery.mala.bc.ca/web/sugiurat/project.htm) to me, for whatever that's worth.

[Clem Rocks]

The more i think about my Nikki Wood idea, the more it seems to make sense. The woman that was talking to Twilight had the insignia on her hand, there hasn't been much use of insignias in Buffy/Angel, except for the Circle of the Black Thorn. The Senior Partners could have brought her back, sent her after Spike whom she recovered "her" coat from(not knowing it wasn't the same coat), then after sending Spike to hell, went of the take on the girl who as involved with her murderer, and the girl who was dating her son and broke his heart (maybe).

[Allycat]

True, but aren't there Norse roots to that?

Nope. Celtic and Norse do share a common-ancestor in Indo-European. Norse belongs to the Germanic languages. They are however, no more related than modern day Italians and Swedish for instance.

The idea that Twilight has some ties to Celtic myth is interesting given that the Slayer HQ is in Scotland, which is a Celtic area.

[nerd4hire]

nerd4hire agrees: True, but aren't there Norse roots to that?

I guess I should have clicked your link before posting, huh GB.

What I was thinking was more the Norse raids along the coast of the British Isles, later in the British history and how those influenced the mythology, and culture. I think what I was thinking was the font looks a little runic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scania_Codexrunicus.jpg)

[Keanoite]

I guess I should have clicked your link before posting, huh GB.

What I was thinking was more the Norse raids along the coast of the British Isles, later in the British history and how those influenced the mythology, and culture. I think what I was thinking was the font looks a little runic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scania_Codexrunicus.jpg)

The font looks alot like the old Irish alphabet Irish Alphabet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_script) there are some slight differences but it's
definitely celtic, it seems almost that two styles were thrown together, the T and A are slightly off.

[nerd4hire]

You guys got me interested, so I had to do some quick-browse research.

The history of calligrapy is pretty fascinating stuff, isn't it. There's all this cross pollination of different cultures. And yeah there is Viking influence of Celtic culture. At This Link (http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v07p097.htm) they go into Norse and Runic influence on early Celtic writing. But later Celtic writing appears to be more influenced by the romans.

Still...

In the beginning of the 6th century (A.D.), manuscript writing (using the Roman script) came into use, and Ireland experienced a literary renaissance. Learning and reading were promoted, and Celtic intellect flourished. Unfortunately, after being spared of vast enemy invasion for many centuries, Ireland was subject to the attack of the Vikings in the 8th century. With this incursion came the introduction of other linguistic forms into Irish, thus diluting the ancient Celtic language from its original form (this Viking influence can still be seen today in Irish Gaelic in the numerous words of Scandinavian origin

Language - Mezzofanti.org (http://www.mezzofanti.org/irish.html)

But then it was going both ways.

The Vikings took back to Scandinavia with them portable Celtic art, which enabled the copying of Irish objects and design in Scandinavia. Thus, the Vikings can be attributed to the proliferation of the style of Celtic metalwork.

http://www.unc.edu/celtic/catalogue/brooches/essaypage.html

However I'm not sure that Twilight font does have Celtic origins. Here's a bunch of fonts that have what they're calling Germanic origins.

Viking Fonts & Art (http://www.fontcraft.com/scriptorium/viking.html)

and here's one that's 14th century Scandinavian.

http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/graphics/pagecontent/ElucidariusIcelandicMssEarly14thCent.gif

(There's more HERE (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/callig.shtml#MssBasics))

The capital letters fit there, as well as the small letter a. Did you notice in Twilight's font all letters are capitalized except a? I wonder why that is.

All I know is when I saw that font the first thing I thought of was like epic stories of heroes and myth. I'm thinking now Germanic, whatever that means exactly. :)

I wonder if there's a way to find out exactly what that Twilight font is.

[tommy]

Twilight does look similar to the androids we saw on Angel, yeah. I suppose it could be related. I don't remember if it was revealed who sent the androids, but they had stolen knowledge from the now-defunct watcher's council and wanted something from Wolfram & Hart too. That could all be part of a bigger plan with Twilight as their master. Things are rarely what they look like though, so I guess Twilight is something new and we'll just have to wait to find out. It wouldn't be Buffy if it was predictable.

[Allycat]

It would make sense if Twilight were an android of some kind. Magic vs Technology is a pretty common theme in fiction (Full Metal Alchemist). Although, I can't remember if it was ever confirmed, it's commonly accepted that Lindsey and Eve sent the cyborg-assassins, right? There even is a slight bit of resemblance between those androids and Twilight's suit and mask.

Anyway, all in all, I think the most important aspect of Twilight that should help us figure out who he/she/it is his goal. He wants to end the age of magic. That makes me think that he/she/it isn't magical him/her/itsself (okay, this is getting annoying, I'm gonna go ahead and use he for the time being). From the way he talked about Roden and Gigi, it's pretty obvious that his plans won't stop at destroying the Slayers.

1. Now that we know there's more military involved than just Voll's group, do you think Twilight's followers were mentioned in Season 7? In the episode where Riley showed up with his wife, his wife told Willow that they had some mystics then OD'ed on the black magic like she did, and that she was strong to come back from it. Now assuming that meant they went all black eyed and veiny, do you think Roden could have been involved with them? Not everyone when they get alot of magic goes black eyed and veiny, i don't remember it ever happening to Amy, and i know it didn't happen to Giles when he came back to fight Willow (although that can be argued that he wasn't using black magic). And if the military and mystics from that episode are working for Twilight, and knowing that it has been said that Riley might be in season 8 at some point, do you think Riley could be one of Twilight's followers?

Here's Sam's quote from episode 6.15 "As You Were".

SAM: Hey Willow. I'm sorry, I think I really ... stepped in it in there. (Willow not looking at her) You know, back in the jungle ... we had not one, but two hard-core shamans working for us ... they were working the dark magicks, and ... got addicted. And now they're gone. (Willow turns to look at her) Gone ... as in ... there's nothing left. I've never met anyone with enough strength to quit before.

I'm afraid she doesn't mean all black and veiny, I'm gather there's as much of those shamans left as there was of Darla after giving birth. Though the idea you bring up is interesting. It could be that Twilight himself use to be a shaman like that, with guilt-issues over the amount of destruction his magic-addiction has caused. His mask could be a Vader-esque thing.

2. Seeing as it now looks like Twilight is floaty feet guy from issue 1, do you think that Twilight can fly/float for a long time without needing a break, or is the mountain that he is on (That looks like a volcano to me) pretty close to the Slayer's castle?

I dunno, but it doesn't look like a very Scottish landscape to me. It looks more like South-America. Are there even flat-top mountains like that? If it is, that still doesn't tell us a whole lot about Twilight's floating/flying ability. Last time he appeared was in LWH and I think that's set a couple weeks before the last scene of NNFY. I do have one question about this ability of his. If he hates all things magical, I'm assuming he's not going to use it himself... so how's he floating?

3. Did we ever find out what happened to Voll? One minute he was talking to Buffy, the next he's never heard of again. Did the slayers capture him? kill him? let him go? or do we just don't know yet?

We don't know yet. I think they have must him locked up somewhere.

EDIT:

I did some research on Wikipedia and it turns out the landscape might be a little more Scottish than I'd imagined. There are mountains that reach into the clouds afterall and the lush plant-life on the sides is not uncommon either. However, I couldn't find many of them that are flat-topped and steep-sided. In fact, I've only really found one such candidate:
Ben Vane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Vane)

[Ashxking]

Wouldn't the old watchers HQ have tons of mystic defences? How could one guy walk in place a bomb and leave. Im still going for a Rouge watcher. PTB havn't realy helped out Buffy or Angel much. They just see humans as slightly better than pure blood demons.

[Keanoite]

You guys got me interested, so I had to do some quick-browse research.

The history of calligrapy is pretty fascinating stuff, isn't it. There's all this cross pollination of different cultures. And yeah there is Viking influence of Celtic culture. At This Link (http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v07p097.htm) they go into Norse and Runic influence on early Celtic writing. But later Celtic writing appears to be more influenced by the romans.

Still...



Language - Mezzofanti.org (http://www.mezzofanti.org/irish.html)

But then it was going both ways.



http://www.unc.edu/celtic/catalogue/brooches/essaypage.html

However I'm not sure that Twilight font does have Celtic origins. Here's a bunch of fonts that have what they're calling Germanic origins.

Viking Fonts & Art (http://www.fontcraft.com/scriptorium/viking.html)

and here's one that's 14th century Scandinavian.

http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/graphics/pagecontent/ElucidariusIcelandicMssEarly14thCent.gif

(There's more HERE (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/callig.shtml#MssBasics))

The capital letters fit there, as well as the small letter a. Did you notice in Twilight's font all letters are capitalized except a? I wonder why that is.

All I know is when I saw that font the first thing I thought of was like epic stories of heroes and myth. I'm thinking now Germanic, whatever that means exactly. :)

I wonder if there's a way to find out exactly what that Twilight font is.


I found This site (http://www.font-finder.com/) but I couldn't copy the text but if you have it scanned onto your computer you could try it. I browsed through the some of the Celtic and Viking fonts and found This Font (http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/omnia/). It's still not perfect, the W,U,M,Y and V are abit off but there are no V,W,Yand Q in the Irish language but that doesn't explain the differences with the M and U. But like you mentioned the text was written completely in caps which was an Irish tradition, including the A, it just has a longer head on it I think.

[Buffy obsessed fan]

I have no idea what he is :p

Hey, how'd he get Spike's jacket? ;)
I never noticed that! He stole it :o :p

[nerd4hire]

A poll would be fun here, I think, so I added one.

[Keanoite]

:)I'm not even going to pretend to know anything about comics cuz I don't but the caps thing just seemed important to the font...but like I said I'm so not knowledge girl when it comes to comics so it's very likely that it means nothing!

[nerd4hire]

Did you notice this from your link?

In designing Omnia, Karlgeorg Hoefer was inspired by the all-caps handwriting of the 3rd-9th centuries.

Apparently all-caps isn't just Celtic, it's a time period. I wonder if that matters? Again, because they always use all-caps in Buffy 8 it would be hard to attach significance. I wonder though, if maybe that's why they didn't capitalize the a. To attract our attention to it, and give us something else to drive us crazy trying to figure out. :)

[tommy]

I voted for Something, or somebody else. "Gee, can you vague that up for me?"

[Keanoite]

Did you notice this from your link?



Apparently all-caps isn't just Celtic, it's a time period. I wonder if that matters? Again, because they always use all-caps in Buffy 8 it would be hard to attach significance. I wonder though, if maybe that's why they didn't capitalize the a. Do attract our attention to it, and give us something else to drive us crazy trying to figure out. :)

No I didn't see that, I was just browsing quickly, didn't really have time to explore...see I don't know if the A is caps or not. It looks like its in lower case but it also looks like it could be in caps depending on the font and since we can't seem to find the font it's kinda up in the air, but in that font A linked to, the A in the comic is a capital.

To be honest I think it's a mixture of a couple different fonts, it seems it is all fairly traditionally celtic except for the u and m and of course the letters that ddon't exist in the Irish and I would presume Scottish alphabet since the languages are basically the same. But I agree, it's definitely something else to drive us crazy!

[nerd4hire]

I just remembered one I had to add to the poll. The Immortal.

Edit:

In fact the more I think about it, The Immortal goes to the top of my personal, suspects list. He fits the profile on all points.

Re-Edit

I was just joking with Buffy Obsessed Fan in Karma comments, suggesting maybe it could be Andrew, because of the jacket, but ya know...coud it be?...Nah, surely not.

[Tranquillity]

I was just joking with Buffy Obsessed Fan in Karma comments, suggesting maybe it could be Andrew, because of the jacket, but ya know...coud it be?...Nah, surely not.

I laughed when i read it then started to think 'mmmm....what if' - i mean as pointed out, he does have the jacket and he does absorb evil like a mushroom and he has a history with meglamania. Not sure why he's be anti-magic or how he got so bulked up but still....:hehe:

[Clem Rocks]

Here one that no-one's mentioned: Adam, with newer body parts and a wanting to get rid of magic because it was magic that killed him

[tommy]

Buffy's shiftless absentee father.

[nerd4hire]

I found This site (http://www.font-finder.com/) but I couldn't copy the text but if you have it scanned onto your computer you could try it. I browsed through the some of the Celtic and Viking fonts and found This Font (http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/omnia/). It's still not perfect, the W,U,M,Y and V are abit off but there are no V,W,Yand Q in the Irish language but that doesn't explain the differences with the M and U. But like you mentioned the text was written completely in caps which was an Irish tradition, including the A, it just has a longer head on it I think.

I kept looking too. This is the closest I could come.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/AlbaCelticText.jpg

I think you and Goldenboy are right though - Celtic influence. This one's called Alba Celtic Text.

http://www.fontcraft.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=alba

[The Chosen]

I personally think it's a male Slayer.

Think about it.

Voll is an extremely misoginistic character and he's talking about women taking ove the world. Creating a "master race."

Who better to combat a female Slayer than a male one?

Whoa!

What is civil twilight? (http://www.planetultra.com/civil.html)

I looked up the roots of Twilight on Ask.com and this came up! It talks about SUNSET. The big bad is introduced in A BEAUTFUL SUNSET! (Kinda.)

Holy crap!

- TC

[Keanoite]

I kept looking too. This is the closest I could come.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/AlbaCelticText.jpg

I think you and Goldenboy are right though - Celtic influence. This one's called Alba Celtic Text.

http://www.fontcraft.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=alba

That kinda looks Scottish to me,duh!, Alba is the Irish for Scotland! If I had a brain I'd be dangerous!

There is still a lot of differences though. Some letters fit and others just look wrong! Is there any more idea's about what Twilight is exactly? I was thinking along the celtic line because of the font, them being in Scotland and Roden was Irish too now that I think of it. There is so much written about Celtic Gods and Twilight, I think we are going to need more info before we could give any reasonable suggestions.

But since this is floating around in my head I'll say it anyway. Once we started throwing ideas around about the font and all that, it reminded me of Yeat's Poem Into The Twilight (http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/yeats/twi/twi42.htm) and that's taken from his collection The Celtic Twilight (http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/yeats/twi/index.htm). This whole collection deals with The Faerys and their magic which reminded me of the Tinkerbell we encountered in The Chain, which struck alot a people as weird.
Now I could be adding 2+2 and getting 13 but I think maybe it's all connected somehow.

[Clem Rocks]

If Twilight is the big bad, what's Amy & Warren? (And i know this probably doesn't belong in this thread, but i couldn't find one to put it in, the guard from Star Wars in Buffy's dreamspace, Warren is a Star Wars fan, so him and Amy must be litteraly connected and it was from their dreamspace!)

[Allycat]

Amy & Warren were probably just the villain of the week. This season's Sunday or Dracula... something to get the season started with. I'm pretty sure they'll return in some way shape or form, but not as the overall villain for the season.

As for the Gamorrean Guard in Buffy's dreamspace; I'm not sure it meant anything. It could be just a silly nod to Star Wars, like the Serenity-shirt on Buffy and the Fray comic one of the Slayers was reading. On the other hand... this IS Whedon!

[Ashxking]

I have a feeling that Amy and Warren will be dead soon. Think about it like this. Why kill Eathen Rayne? He was a wiz with magic. If Twighlight is trying to end "The Age of Magic" Why not kill off the second most powerful witch in the world

[Allycat]

I doubt very much that Amy is the second most powerful witch. Having said that, you still can't end the Age of Magic without ending her (and Warren). On the topic of Ethan Rayne however, I get the feeling that he might not have been killed as per Twilight's direct orders. I think that was just a decision on General Voll's part.

[Cordelia Chase*]

i dont know if anybody said this but doesnt Twilight look like the robot that was Wesleys Father!!!!!!??

[alexa]

Yes I mentioned this when #11 covers came out, but nooooo noone pays attention ;) heh.

I still think the androids and Twilight are connected... be cool if they were anyway. Might go watch Lineage now. The masks look the same.. but Twilight has his own distinctive mark. Can he only come out at Twilight... he seems to just appear then. Being a designer I've seen that font around here and there.. looked Irish to me. Not sure if it matters though, Warren has his own font as well.
Why does he want the age of magic to end though? And who is stupid enough to work for him inside the slayer camp?

[alexa]

Hmm maybe changed my mind. Watched Lineage and their masks look pretty different... still Twilight looks familiar to me.

[LittleMissLikesToFight]

personally, im not sure WHAT to think. but i WANT it to be someone we know behind that mask, because i love heavy reveals like that, that make you go whoa! Someone we havn't seen in a long while... that'd be awesome.

[nerd4hire]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/TwilightNo91.jpg

That's an interesting bit of cryptic there, in what Twilight says.

How does separating Warlock from Watcher, and Slayer from Slayer help to bring about the age of magic? Is it just about separating Buffy from her support, or is there more to it?

Does it offer a clue to who Twilight is? Does (s)he have a working knowledge of how the inner circle of Buffy's camp works? He does have an inside man, but how did he get one in there? I'm starting to get suspicious of Andrew, not for Twilight, but for inside man. Possible connections to Andrew - Warren, or the Immortal. Again, Andrew is the only one other than Spike who we know has a jacket like that. He wouldn't have to be wearing it. He could have given it away.

Also...was the giantizing of Dawn part of the "split the scoobs up" plan? Would that mean Kenny the Thricewise is in on this dastardly plot, whatever it is? There's a cool irony about making Dawn a giant. It makes her more physically powerful, but it robs her of her true power within the group as "junior watcher". Only somebody intimate with the scoobs would know that.

Edit

Oh, and here's another thing about Andrew... Up until now we've thought Andrew put the Doppleganger Buffy together with the Immortal, just to be funny, but what if there's more to it than a prank. It effectively separates the real Buffy from Spike and Angel's support.

Edit:

I just thought of another one. Kennedy doesn't like magic. She doesn't like Buffy much either. Her parents are rich, and could have connections. She's a recruiter, and could have met Gigi.

[alexa]

Got to say I think it's clearly a male.
But what sort of 'person' would need to cover up all of their skin?
I hope Andrew isn't the insider.. right now my money is on Renee. They really do need to clear up the 'Damage' stuff.. also whether or not Buffy knows Spike is alive.. although I suppose he's in hell right now.

[Keanoite]

Got to say I think it's clearly a male.
But what sort of 'person' would need to cover up all of their skin?
I hope Andrew isn't the insider.. right now my money is on Renee. They really do need to clear up the 'Damage' stuff.. also whether or not Buffy knows Spike is alive.. although I suppose he's in hell right now.

Actually where season 8 is set is actually the same time of season 5 of Angel...so he is at W&H and I would say she doesn't know, not yet anyway

[Kemy]

After the Fall is set right after the end of Angel, so the summer of 2004.

Buffy season 8 was meant to be 12-18 months after the end of Chosen, meaning Fall of 2004. But Faith makes reference to "Arctic Monkeys", an English group Joss wanted very much to mention but yet again ignored any proper research of anything English since the band formed in the middle of 2006, putting Season 8 of Buffy around the end of last year, Winter 2006.

[JCC]

After the Fall is set right after the end of Angel, so the summer of 2004.

Buffy season 8 was meant to be 12-18 months after the end of Chosen, meaning Fall of 2004. But Faith makes reference to "Arctic Monkeys", an English group Joss wanted very much to mention but yet again ignored any proper research of anything English since the band formed in the middle of 2006, putting Season 8 of Buffy around the end of last year, Winter 2006.
Actually, they formed in 2002, and all I had to do was quickly google them. They released their debut album in 2006, but that doesn't eliminate the demos and the live shows beforehand. A bit of a messy pop culture reference, sure, but not incorrect.

[Kemy]

Yes but for an American who isn't too bright and only arriving in England for a mission she wouldn't have casually formed a liking for them as if their music was mainstream back in late 2004, its just too awkward a reference and they should definitely try and print another well known bands name into the speech bubble for the Trade Paper Back.

[Keanoite]

Yes but for an American who isn't too bright and only arriving in England for a mission she wouldn't have casually formed a liking for them as if their music was mainstream back in late 2004, its just too awkward a reference and they should definitely try and print another well known bands name into the speech bubble for the Trade Paper Back.

Hey! Faith isn't stupid...she just was never taught!

[Kemy]

Hey! Faith isn't stupid...she just was never taught!

Season 7?

Faith "I never knew you were so cool"
Buffy "Well you always were a little slow"
Faith "Yeah I get that"

:p

[The Chosen]

I think he's a wolf now. No longer a male Slayer, but a wolf. Take a gander at my evidence:

When he makes an appearance in NFFU part four, there is fog/mist stuff in the background, correct? That same mist/fog appears on the cover of A Beautiful Sunset when he is launching him/herself at Buffy and it also appears on Wolves at the Gate, part one, around that Werewolf. Now, you're thinking I have no evidence as to him/her being a wolf. Except that the belt on Twilight and the Wolf look very similar.

Well, it's not solely my opinion. A few other people (*cough*Evilyn*cough*) think so to.
- TC

[nerd4hire]

I just thought of something cute...

I'm going to suggest House Points for whoever gets this right. :)

[alexa]

Not very likely one of us is going to get 'this' right because we don't know what you're talking about.. what would n4h think is cute? Should we guess your Big Bad theory?

[Senior Watcher]

Not very likely one of us is going to get 'this' right because we don't know what you're talking about.. what would n4h think is cute? Should we guess your Big Bad theory?

yeah, im not too sure whats goin on.

[The Chosen]

I just thought of something cute...

I'm going to suggest House Points for whoever gets this right. :)

Your idea isn't related to Little Red Riding Hood, is it?

...

Well, is it?!

[nerd4hire]

Ah, OK, I've checked into this, and I have something to report.

What I thought would be cute was the idea of awarding points to the House (Merrick, Raiden, Vahla Ha'nesh, Drogyn) of the member(s) who guess correctly, or most correct in the poll here as to what exactly the Big Bad is.

I have an agreement in principle as to that proposal from the organizer of the House Cup tournament.

It's just a smile and a chuckle right now, because I believe the Buffy Season 8 series will continue for up to 2 years, and who knows when the big reveal will happen. Nevertheless it gives us lots of time to work out the details. :)

[alexa]

What if we're still someone in between Wolfman/Caleb/Cyborg ;) I think I'll go with the Cyborg type of creation.. but somehow old. It's the only option without flaws. Caleb is a good idea, except we see the back of Twilight's head and it's not split in half.. or looking cut. The wolfman is a good idea, but the belts aren't perfectly the same.. but very similar.. plus issue #12 seems early for a big reveal.. but who knows. Maybe I should have guessed after I got to read #12 :p

[nerd4hire]

I'm going to close this one down and start an actual staked House Cup contest thread. Look for it.