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celestialarrow
12-20-2007, 08:55 AM
question in the episode YOUR WELCOME was cordelia still a half-demon or did she lose all of her powers considering it was just a physical astroprojection
Buffy obsessed fan
12-20-2007, 10:16 AM
First of, this was a season five episode, not season four (Just settin' you straight :) )
And it was really never obvious, though I presume she had no powers.
Joyce Summers
12-20-2007, 11:31 AM
Yes, she still had her powers. If the fact that she claimed a vision woke her up didn't prove then the fact that later on in the season where Angel reveals that when she kissed him she passed on the power of the visions proves it.
I'm not sure whether she was still half-demon, but she definitely still had the visions
Buffy obsessed fan
12-20-2007, 12:13 PM
Oh. I totally forgot about that. *Hits head* Oh well, then she COULD have still been demonic =/
Keanoite
12-20-2007, 12:30 PM
I presume she was I mean did we ever get any reason to believe she wasn't half demon anymore?
VisionGuy
12-20-2007, 12:45 PM
I have a long ass theory about this. I posted it in another thread, I'll try to find it. LOL
Cordelia Chase*
12-20-2007, 05:58 PM
I'm assuming that she still is half demon. If she wasnt then the vision she had would of probably killed her and blew her brain out..but then again she was already dead..................
Keanoite
12-20-2007, 06:40 PM
Was she dead? I got the impression she was alive when she got the vision? A vegetable definitely, but still alive.
Cordelia Chase*
12-20-2007, 09:44 PM
wELL....IDK. i ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS DEAD FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE EP. bUT MAYBE A NEAR DEATH VEGGIE! LOL
bUT I WISH SHE COULD OF STAYED. i MISS cORDY..........
GATEGOD
12-20-2007, 09:51 PM
Maybe she got the vision, which killed her, propelling her into the out of body experience?
Cordelia Chase*
12-20-2007, 11:20 PM
maybe so
never thought of it like dat
Solid Cordy was still half demon. It depends on the whether the solid astral Cordy was too. I'd assume so.
Joyce Summers
12-23-2007, 05:50 AM
This is my crazy interpretation, but I never saw her as an astal in 'You're Welcome'. I think she was solid, alive, heart-beating awake. But just for that time. Sort of like an temporary altered timeline. Just so she could set Angel back on track. I mean she did say 'the powers owed me one and I didn't waste it'. And she's have to be there completely and non-astral for the visions to be able to transfer to Angel with a kiss, wouldn't she?
Keanoite
12-23-2007, 06:22 AM
Spike was able to touch things when he was incorporeal if he concentrated really hard so maybe something similar like that was going on with Cordelia. I think we were supposed to see her as an astral projection
Joyce Summers
12-23-2007, 07:53 AM
But then why did the Doctors call saying she'd woken up? And they went shopping for clothes. And she was shown to actually be shocked awake even though there was no one but us to see her. I don't think she ever actually was awake obviously because of what is said at the end ('she never woke up...') but I don't think she was going astral on us. I can't really explain my thoughts in words haha...
Keanoite
12-23-2007, 08:14 AM
But then why did the Doctors call saying she'd woken up? And they went shopping for clothes. And she was shown to actually be shocked awake even though there was no one but us to see her. I don't think she ever actually was awake obviously because of what is said at the end ('she never woke up...') but I don't think she was going astral on us. I can't really explain my thoughts in words haha...
At the start of the ep when wes and angel go to pick her up at the hospital cordy is waiting for them in the room and she draws the curtain on somebody she describes as a vegetable...that was HER body, David Greenwalt said it in the commentary so I don't think it was a 100% authentic cordy that we got to see with the gang
wiccianslayer
12-23-2007, 09:26 AM
cordy was dead at the begining am i the only one that remembers the body in the room with her when angel and wes went to see her and she covered it by pulling the curtain round and she said "yeah she's not loking so good?" we didnt see the body it could have been her body
Joyce Summers
12-23-2007, 10:54 AM
Damn! I totally missed that! And/or forgotten about it! Heck, you people are good. Haha. Hmm...that adds new layerness to it all doesn't it? Because I know Spike was able to touch things if he really concentrated, but Cordy just did it automatically.....so she was defintely different from astral and/or ghost. Hmmm....
eunsoma
12-23-2007, 11:30 PM
I don't think the astral Cordy was part demon, cuz remember when Spike got the phony vision message from Lyndsay and bit her, he said she didn't taste demonic! And I think Cordy was still a vegetable throughout the episode, but the powers knew she'd die soon, so they let her do the astral thing before it was too late. Remember when she first wakes up and she closes the blind on that other girls body lying in the hospital bed, and says : "That girl's in rough shape", I think that body was actually Cordy's physical being.
Cordelia Chase*
12-24-2007, 10:50 AM
I dont think she would taste like a demon. I think the demonic thing just took place in her powers growing and keeping the visions.
celestialarrow
01-03-2008, 09:40 AM
that was my same thought and thats why i asked the question i think cordy wasn't dead at the beginning of the episode but still a vegetable but when the powers allowed her to astral project or what ever it was she exhausted the rest of her essence is which is why she died a choice between living as a vegetable or getting a one chance at living and instead of doing her own thing by spending the day as she wish she chose to help angel back on his path. because after all she did say the powers gave her a chance and she didnt waste it.
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