View Full Version : Kill warren??
Bangelxx
12-28-2007, 04:01 PM
In the episode "Villains" Willow was obviously VERY mad! so mad she turned to the Black Arts, but I think she had a point in being so angry. Tara was very special to her and then suddenly when they were both very happy-warren shot her. I would certainly be mad! But what i want to know from you guys is do you think Willow should have killed Warren? I don't think she should have but if you're THAT angry- it might be rather hard to think straight!!:S
Wiccaness
12-28-2007, 04:44 PM
I think, since she was so angry, and filled with darkness, and killed him out of rage, i would probably done that too, if i was her and that happened. But also out of anger, i think she gave him the easy way out. So on the long run, no i dont think she should have killed him. I think that some one who kills some one should have to pay dearly with out dying, especially some one like warren. He killed only because he lost, and in the end, he didnt even kill the person her was going for. I wouldnt have wanted Willow to torture him more then she did, but i think he should have suffered a little more, with out having to die. also with the fact that i wouldnt want willow to kill a person, no matter what they did.
Keanoite
12-28-2007, 05:34 PM
No I don't think she should have killed him. I understand why she did but I think like Ness said he got off easy, he died fairly quickly too. Like Buffy said the human world have ways of dealing with murders, Willow wasn't god and had no right to decided his fate. However I have to wonder would prison have done anything to him? he was so void of emotion, would it ahve really mattered? who knows. In saying all that, Willow had no more right to decide his fate anymore than he had in deciding Tara's.
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Rowan Hawthorn
12-28-2007, 06:21 PM
From a moral standpoint, no. She shouldn't have killed him. But, then, from a realistic standpoint, I completely understand why she did, and I'd have done the same thing - except it would have taken him a lot longer to die, given the opportunity to get him all to myself. Prison rarely seems to do anything except serve as a training camp - particularly for those whose goal is to become a criminal. At least Willow saved someone else the trouble. Or would have, anyway, if she'd been successful...
Lillie
12-28-2007, 07:31 PM
She had already lost her self by then... I don't think the "real" Willow would have done that. And especially without feeling a thing... at the beginning of season 7 she's really doubtful and you can see that she truly regrets what she did.
Willow's such a poweful wicca so when she gets access to powers like that the magic takes over... and I think it was wrong killing Warren.
LittleMissLikesToFight
12-28-2007, 08:10 PM
im fairly certain if someone shot and killed my boyfriend, accident or not, id want to kill them. When you love someone so much... you tend to let emotions override any sort of rational logic. would i actually kill them though? no, most likely not. but id sure as hell want to.
I dont think willow SHOULD have but i can understand why. and why not? she was so powerful, even when the police tried to stop her it was no use, so she really had no outside consequences/obstacles.
I think there are two issues. One is whether Warren deserves to die and the other is whether Willow should go down that route and kill him. Destroying someone else wont bring back the person you love, it will only destroy you. Let him rot in jail, not for him but for Willow's sake.
ILLYRIAN
12-29-2007, 06:33 PM
Willow's anger was at not being able to bring Tara back to life.
I thought vengeance was the kicker, not anger.
DantePD
01-02-2008, 06:42 PM
Morally was it right? No. But, that being said, if you put me in those circumstances I'd be so far away from rational that I'd do the same thing.
Randy Giles
01-06-2008, 10:17 PM
Actually, I thought she was perfectly justified in killing Warren. What goes around comes around. However, I do not think it was OK for her to start using black magic.
Werewolf
01-13-2008, 07:24 PM
even though warren deserved it, willow should have not taken a human life.
how she killed him was horrable, i mean putting a bullet in you slowley then ripping your skin off is not my idea of a peaceful death
Randy Giles
01-13-2008, 07:30 PM
Why should Warren have gotten a peaceful death?
I think the show just likes to give particularly unpleasant deaths to the male characters who are misogynistic.
SMGfan17
03-16-2008, 08:19 AM
Not a Warren fan at all-- i really didnt care that she killed him!
Joyce Summers
03-16-2008, 08:54 AM
The Wiccan Rede states 'And it harm none, do what ye will'. Willow completely ignored this Wiccan law (not to mention the regular ones too!) by killing Warren. But, I supported her all the way.
Warren's character had been built more and more throughout season 6 to prepare us for this. The writers made him more abusive, controlling, mysoginistic and the human variety of evil so that when he was killed we felt it was justified.
As you have pointed out, some people didn't agree with him being killed. But I did. Flaying and burning him alive was definitely evil and gruesome but the concept of killing him I was fully behind. He had tried to kill Buffy, succeeded in killing Tara, had killed Katrina and would more than likely go on to kill anyone else who ended up in his way. He was worse than a demon. Demons are meant to be evil, they are created evil. They are soulless. Warren was a human being, he had free will, he had conscience and he had soul and yet he still killed and did all those evil things. Like Anya said 'this is why humans are worse than demons'.
However, where this act sent Will -big end of the world black majiks- I did not agree with. But that was the sacrifice wasn't it? She wasn't bothered about going all evil if it meant getting rid of Warren. She even said 'I'm not coming back', she knew exactly where this was all going to take her.
Scythus
03-27-2008, 06:49 AM
Willow was consumed by grief and anger, as most people have said she did nothing that they wouldn't have done under the same circumstances. Obviously killing Warren was moraly wrong but morals dont register when a person is in that state of mind, and i dont believe prsion would have done anything to someone like Warren. i think Willow was justified in killing him, even if it did let him off easy, that act showed just how far her grief and anger had carried her towards the dark side as rational Willow would never have thought of doing that. i thought it was a great episode
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