View Full Version : Drusilla's Visions?
SlayerGuy91
12-29-2007, 07:58 PM
Was it ever explained where Drusilla's visions came from? Was it from the powers like Cordy's? But we see she didn't experience any pain from them, at least as a vampire but who knows what it was like for her as a human? Also if they were sent from God like she thought when she was a human then why did she keep recieving them after she became a vampire, an unholy affront to God? Your thoughts?
Blondie Bear
12-29-2007, 08:04 PM
The writers thought up Drusilla before they thought up the PTB, so I don't think they (the PTB) have any relevance to this discussion. As I understand it, Drusilla was precognitive, but in the Catholic tradition, as Dru's mother told her, only God is supposed to know the future (and then there's the whole "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" and stuff). I think the visions are part of her brain, part that won't go away just because she's dead. They, in fact, became as perverted as she was, showing her things that helped them destroy the world rather than things to help protect people (like the mine cave-in she saw before she died). The only indication in the Buffyverse that God exists is in the people that believe in him, not in the mythos itself, so I don't see why the visions would disappear just because Dru's an "evil thing."
I hope that made sense; I pretty much wrote it as I thought it.
ILLYRIAN
12-29-2007, 08:20 PM
Yup, Dru got the visions alright, before and after she died, where did they come from ? probably her third eye, located somewhere in that lump between her ears. Did they have anything to do with God, nope.
That's a thought, a catholic saying is thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. But as nothing is said about vampires, is it okay to be a vampire witch ?
VisionGuy
12-29-2007, 10:45 PM
I don't know but I know she was a seer like Cordelia. In the episode Dear Boy, where angel first finds Darla, Angel says in a flashback that he likes the way a seer smells or something like that when he sees Drusilla. Then in present day, he starts sniffing on Cordy. So maybe they give off the same powerful aroma since they both have visions and everything.
Buffy obsessed fan
12-30-2007, 04:53 AM
I can't remember which episode it's in, but in an episode, it shows the past, and there's something about trying to kill her because her Father was rich and powerful, and I'm sure he says something about torturing 'The one with the visions...?' Okay, I might be making this up, I seriously can't remember :p
Joyce Summers
12-30-2007, 04:55 AM
Hmmm...I think the Cordy Visions and Dru Visions have similarities in the way they recieve them (Just suddenly and causing them to stop what they're doing) and the fact they have the Sight at all, puts them into the category of Seers. But while Cordy was given the Gift by the PTB to help Angel, it was something that was born within Drusilla. Maybe there was another member of the family who had the gift and she inherited it from them. (Though considering Dru's Mother's reaction, we can presume that that member would have been cast out of the family at the very least). She just has a gift to see things before they happen, at random. Whereas Cordy could never get a Vision unless the PTB allowed it, Dru always had that knowledge within her I just don't think she ever discovered how to actively use it herself.
I hope that made sense to anyone besides me.
Keanoite
12-30-2007, 07:39 AM
I always got the impression that the visions just kicked in for Dru when she reached a certain age, like Doyle. Remember when she went to confession and she told Angelus about them, it gives the impression that they were a new developement in her life. I always saw her pretty much the same as Cordy, sight wise.
Drusilla was born a Seer, much like the ones used in the later seasons of the show, Humans with mild prophetic abilities to see things more on demand but in less detail and accuracy than the "data dump" version Doyle had imbued by TPTB.
Buffy herself has them in sleep, Dru has a permanent second site that occasionally overwhelms her with something specific, mostly just a strange ability to know, like when she knew Ethan had arrived and what he was going to do, it came to her easily and painlessly. I think a lot of her visions just "drifted through" that way.
As a Vampire and because of the mental torture of Angelus her mental control broke down and both her mind and the visions bleed together most of the time into an incoherent amalgam of a consciousness. Only moments of lucidity seem to allow her to see something clearly either way.
Werewolf
12-31-2007, 03:54 PM
I don't know if any of you are familiar with the vampire series "twilight" by stephanie meyer, but they have a vampire character that has a power similar to drew's. The vampire had the power before she became a vamp, so i think that is what happened with drew..
Tranquillity
12-31-2007, 04:19 PM
I love those books...
Yeah, i agree that Dru had the gift of 'the sight' before she was turned (sort of like the chick in Medium i suppose) and she kept it after she became a vampire. Only, because Angelus had driven her crazy it was hard to desipher what was future sight and what was crazy talk. I like the idea (that i read on another board) that Dru made Spike specifically to impact on Angel's future.
In "Darla" Dru says:
I could. I could pick the wisest and bravest knight in all the land - and make him mine forever with a kiss.
And then Willium Bumps into them
and Darla says: Or you could just take the first drooling idiot that comes along.
But Dru looks at William in a particular way like she sees something... and then tracks him down to give him that kiss. And we know that she has resentment towards Angelus about her family because of that scene in "What's my Line" where Dru pours holy water over Angel listing all her family members and what they liked and how he ruined everything by ripping their throats out. So it makes sense that she would maybe seek a way to punish 'daddy' for what he's done to her. The King of cups expects a picnic but this is not his birthday...i love that line.
Randy Giles
01-12-2008, 06:50 PM
I've always just assumed that Drusilla was born with the ability to get visions.
And as for the "witch" comment stated somewhere above...Drusilla's not a witch, if you're born with visions you can't be evil just because of that, and it doesn't make you evil. Let's say God exists in the Buffyverse (I believe in God but I'm not too sure he exists in BtVS). The Catholic Church isn't necessarily right about their opinions on everything, and I don't think God would punish Dru for an ability she was born with. If she worshiped evil forces in order to get them, that's one thing, but she didn't even want them when she was alive.
Jules
01-19-2008, 07:40 AM
I always thought of her powers like Gwen's from season 4 of Angel. She was just born with a mutation and that mutation allowed her to receive visions.
UlaGan
01-19-2008, 07:55 AM
Well, I always thought she's just born seer like the claim Joan of'Arc was (at least in that movie the Messenger). Very typical case of extremelly believer. She was very religious. Well, Cordy experienced pain, Dru went all mental. The craziness of Dru could be her way of 'Visionability' price. I don't think she went nuts solely because of Angelus' deeds, but that she was already "suitable mental subject" herself. Angelus just pushed her, served as a trigger.
Xin Rong
01-19-2008, 08:43 AM
In my eyes drus power was completely different cordys, it was more like cassies in season 7
vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.