Why did they pair up Andrew and Anya in the final fight?

[VisionGuy]

I was reading another thread and somebody brought this up. The others knew that they weren't fighters. If Anya was in vengeance mode, I'm sure she could have held her own but not as a human. Andrew on the other hand, let's not even go there. So what is everybody's opinion on this?

[Lyri]

'cause it made it easier to kill off Anya? lol

my thinking is that Robin and Giles felt that they could handle the main flow of the Uber Vamps, so they took the most logical way for the bad guys to go. both Buffy and Xander would want to protect Dawn. Xander's feelings of protection to the younger Summers was sometimes more powerful than his feelings for Anya, so it's easy to see why he went with Dawn. which left Andrew and Anya alone. everyone thought that there's was the least logical escape route for the Uber Vamps, so they all thought they'd be safe, with minimal bad guys. how wrong they were. :(

[Buffy obsessed fan]

Um...that's something I never really thought of.

I guess it's kinda like gym partners and stuff (I said kinda!) everyone picked and they were the only two left :lmao:

[white avenger]

More than likely, no one really wanted either of them as partners. Xander would no doubt have wanted Anya with him if Buffy had not said that she wanted Dawn with him. Of the non-Potential fighters< I've always felt that Giles felt a certain bond with Wood due to their being the oldest two (humans) in the group, plus, frankly, Giles might have felt that Wood needed his protection, considering his record as a fighter. (He managed to stake a couple of vamps once, granted, but every other time he was in any kind of real fight, with the exeption of a few high school kids, he got his ass kicked).

[GATEGOD]

Buffy wanted Anya and Andrew dead. That's my thoughts and I'm sticking with em! Or Buffy was stupid, or Buffy didn't care. Either way... somehow Buffy is at fault :p

[Blondie Bear]

I very much doubt Buffy "wanted them dead." More likely she just wasn't thinking about them, or, as Lyri said, she figured they'd be safe upstairs, that the new Slayer army would be able to keep back enough of them so no one upstairs would really be in any danger.

[GATEGOD]

I just don't understand why she wouldn't put atleast one slayer with them... come on, give them a chance atleast :cry:

[Blondie Bear]

Cause all the Slayers were needed downstairs to help fight the ubervamps.

[GATEGOD]

Cause all the Slayers were needed downstairs to help fight the ubervamps.

Not every single one of them. One of them wouldn't have changed everything. Spike still would have used the Necklace and it would have been nearly the same outcome. Or would one of the 20 or 30 girls really made a difference. How many were there?

[Kemy]

According to the First, "20 or 30 girls" so say about 28 and up to 8 died in the battle there weren't that many, all of them were needed to stave off the first waves of the Turok Han to prevent them getting past in the first place, which unfortunately they did.

The groups up top were to mop up stragglers that got past. Can't waste needed Slayers on that.

[white avenger]

According to the First, "20 or 30 girls" so say about 28 and up to 8 died in the battle there weren't that many, all of them were needed to stave off the first waves of the Turok Han to prevent them getting past in the first place, which unfortunately they did.

The groups up top were to mop up stragglers that got past. Can't waste needed Slayers on that.




Actually, the groups topside were supposed to primarily stop any uber vamps who got past the Slayers, but also, and just as importantly, to stop the Bringers from attacking from the rear

[GATEGOD]

Actually, the groups topside were supposed to primarily stop any uber vamps who got past the Slayers, but also, and just as importantly, to stop the Bringers from attacking from the rear

hahaha! Buffy nearly died from an Uber Vamp and Anya and Andrew are expected to stop one ^_^ I laugh in the face of danger!!

[white avenger]

hahaha! Buffy nearly died from an Uber Vamp and Anya and Andrew are expected to stop one ^_^ I laugh in the face of danger!!


Check back, and you'll see that Andrew and Anya were facing mostly Bringers, not uber-vamps, plus it has been speculated in another thread that only the first uber-vamp was all that super powerful. If they had all been that bad, the Potentials wouldn't have had a chance even for the few seconds after the "Faith go boom" incident.

[ILLYRIAN]

Because those characters together would have given the writers the ability to throw in that many gag lines, so if they needed more content the pairing was done. Chances are they would have been one of the first to be organised, remember those two at the hospital, and the drinking the whiskey / whisky scene.

[GATEGOD]

Still placing the two people who can't fight together is moronic!! Buffy should be ashamed of herself.

[TrueVengeance]

It's not Buffy's fault. They were the only two left (and I dont think Xander can fight very well either but thats not the point). They had more important things to worry about then whether the two would be ok. The world (and Dawn, since she requested that she be with Xander...even though Xander's almost as bad as Andrew hehe) came first. Giles with Wood, and she wanted Xander with Dawn. Teams of two.

Also, not sure how Anya couldn't fight? Looks like she killed quite a few and suprisingly held her own against the bringers.

[white avenger]

Still placing the two people who can't fight together is moronic!! Buffy should be ashamed of herself.



Of course, and I've said this on several occasions before, taking a couple of dozen girls down into the hellmouth to face what Buffy knew beforehand was an army of hundreds if not thousands of uber-vamps isn't exactly a stroke of genius now, is it? Granted, Spike was wearing the magic pendant, but Angel had said that the source that had given it to him was "undependable, to say the least," and that he really had no idea just what exactly that it was supposed to do. For all she knew, it was just a piece of gaudy jewelry meant to lure the defenders into a clever trap.

Given the way things turned out, the whole battle was, as Giles said, "bloody genius," but it could just as well have been a total disaster, effectively accomplishing no more than fulfilling the First Evil's plan to effectively destroy the Slayer line. (I know, all those Slayers all over the world were activated at the same time, but with no explanation as to just where their newfound powers had come from, and no way of uniting under some form of leadership, they would have been easy pickings for the Bringers and any other allies/minions the First might have lurking about somewhere.

Given the facts as Buffy knew them, the whole strategy was purely suicidal on Buffy's part, and it took a miracle of the highest magnitude for it NOT to turn out exactly as that: suicide.

Given all of that, teaming Andrew and Anya might have been one of the more intelligent things done in the entire battle. They were at least rudimentary friends, worked fairly well together, and were placed in a position where they, like the other two teams, would face relatively small opposition compared to the overwhelming odds faced Buffy's the main force.

[Randy Giles]

I think it made sort-of sense for Andrew and Anya to be together, they were expendable in terms of how important they were to the saving the world business and they had a greater chance at survival up top than they would have had they gone into the Hellmouth.

However I still Anya's death was retarded, when she died I was so shocked and angry. Joss killed off Anya **AND** Cordy! I think he wants a bitch slapping.

[Senior Watcher]

'congats' to them for having the courage to fight, but i dont think either one should have been there. i mean, seriously, what were they gonna do? they couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag!

oh well. whats done is done. i just would have had a happier ending by having anya live.

[GATEGOD]

I think it made sort-of sense for Andrew and Anya to be together, they were expendable in terms of how important they were to the saving the world business and they had a greater chance at survival up top than they would have had they gone into the Hellmouth.

However I still Anya's death was retarded, when she died I was so shocked and angry. Joss killed off Anya **AND** Cordy! I think he wants a bitch slapping.

Lets gang him ^_^ haha :chase:

I'm just happy we had all the time we did to see Anya. I'd have loved to see more of her, but the show ended on the episode she died. If they went onto a 't.v.' season 8 I'd be alot more upset then I am.