Angel: After the Fall - Spoilers for #4 and up

[nerd4hire]

Time for a new spoiler thread.

The last one is here (http://buffy-boards.com/showthread.php?t=33322&page=11), if you want to catch up.

Here's what's there for what's coming up.

http://origin.aintitcool.com/images2007/angelfirst.jpg
http://origin.aintitcool.com/images2007/angelwes.jpg
http://origin.aintitcool.com/images2007/angellorne.jpg

INTERVIEW: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35281

[Allycat]

IDW has posted its solicitations for April... which includes After the Fall #6. There's no cover-art however. I wonder why that is. Anyway, they finally revealed all the names of the artist working on this issue. (No Franco Urru on this one.)

ANGEL: AFTER THE FALL #6

Written by Joss Whedon and Brian Lynch art by John Byrne, Sean Galloway, David Messina, Stephen Mooney and Kevyn Schmidt, covers by Joe Sharp and Rob Sharp and Rebecca A. Wrigley.

First Night begins! What happened on the very night Los Angeles went straight to hell, the incident that ended the Angel television series with such a shocking cliffhanger? Why did the team go their separate ways? And how did Connor rise up to become one of Hell's greatest champions? This first issue of a two-part series-within-a-series has the answers you've been waiting for!

32 pages, $3.99.

SOURCE: IDW Publishing (http://www.idwpublishing.com/solicit/april08.shtml)

[alexa]

I'm still not into ATF like Iam Buffy..and bloody hell the issues seem really short (apart from #1).. but I really want to know what happens after finding out that Angel is human.. or is not a vampire anyway... Looking forward to seeing Lorne..

[Gilesau]

I'm still not into ATF like Iam Buffy..and bloody hell the issues seem really short (apart from #1).. but I really want to know what happens after finding out that Angel is human.. or is not a vampire anyway... Looking forward to seeing Lorne..

Finally! We get to see what happened to Lorne. Thought this day would never come....

[Allycat]

Brian Lynch just posted the covers to First Nights 1 and 2 on his MySpace blog. It's one piece of art spread over two covers. Looks pretty awesome if you ask me. But where's Gunn's scar? Or maybe he doesn't have it yet, because it's a flashback issue?

http://a244.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/23/l_6d7f42e19b3b5af00f676dec52254a23.jpg

Source: Myspace.com Blogs - A peek at a fantastic ANGEL:AFTER THE FALL cover for you - brian lynch MySpace Blog (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=335358&blogID=350143529&Mytoken=B8DFE57A-EF0F-4166-A4F8AA55F9B9D41916840981)

[Clem Rocks]

We're actualy getting good art for once? O_O!

[Keanoite]

Gotta say that is mighty impressive! That looks like the Gunn we saw in War Zone so I would second that flash back suggestion.

[GATEGOD]

Is Angel actually going to fight off all of these 'big bads' champions in this issue? (The fourth one) That is what it seemed like in the previous issue, but than again it might take another 4 issues just to get that far. Will it?

[Allycat]

As the first chapter in this epic tale reaches its penultimate point, Angel issues a challenge to someone-a lot of someones, actually-that he can't possibly win. Meanwhile, Spike considers changing sides as this hellish new status quo presents some opportunities he can't pass up. And we promise a shock ending more explosive than even those of the first three issues. Joss Whedon, Brian Lynch and Franco Urru continue their march through a Los Angeles truly gone to hell.

The blurb for the next issue suggests that it'll go down right away... but you can never be too sure.

[VisionGuy]

I'd like it if it wasn't for the damn fish.

[Lyri]

i'm with VG. the fish still bugs me!

[Allycat]

Well, Joss told Brian to work him into the story, so I guess maybe sometime in the future we'll learn that he's really cool or something.

[nerd4hire]

Do you have a link to that information, because I seem to recall it differently. Something like a request from Brian to Joss, and really vague as to the particulars.

[Cordelia Chase*]

Its in one of the other Angerl spoiler threads. I remember him talking about he wanted the fish added into the comics.

[nerd4hire]

Thanks, but again that's not a link. There's this thing called context, some are curious about.

[Cordelia Chase*]

Its a bit of reading but its somewhere in there.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35281

[nerd4hire]

Ah, OK, thanks. Found it.

Joss didn’t have any input on SHADOW PUPPETS, but something he said inspired a small part of it. He told me he liked the character of Betta George (the telepathic fish) from SPIKE: ASYLUM, and wanted to find a place for him in AFTER THE FALL. Problem is, Betta George died in ASYLUM, so I orchestrated his return in PUPPETS.

[VisionGuy]

Betta George died in Asylum right? Why would he want to bring him back in Shadow Puppets so that he can be in After The Fall? His comics aren't canon anyway so George being dead in Shadow Puppets would have nothing to do with After The Fall. I can't stand that damn fish. If they wanted a psychic friend, they should have just brought back Lorne's friend from Aggie. Was that her name? At least she was hot and created by the people on the show.

[Tranquillity]

Here is a link (http://bp2.blogger.com/_sWu0-rmtFZM/R5bSZFDGWfI/AAAAAAAAABU/4hkd2yx6OyU/s1600-h/Angel-dyptich.jpg)to the full version of the cover for "First Night"

[Keanoite]

I like it...all the images are of how we first encountered the characters...except for Angel...and what and or who is the little spoiler alert dude or dudette?

[GATEGOD]

If the Giant fish in the background suddenly dropped dead ;) I wouldn't mind. But the rest of it looks beautiful.

[Allycat]

Here's one of the alt covers for First Night (Part 2). It's one of best. The art is by the Sharp Brothers and the colouring is by Art Lyon.

http://comics.virtualslayer.net/AAtF07B.jpg

I'm gonna go ahead and say that the mystery man is Lindsey!!!

[alexa]

Looks pretty good. Maybe Wesley also.. but not sure why he'd be holding a gun (if he's dead).

[Clem Rocks]

That can't be Lyndsey, Lyndsey had nice hair D=
Although, seeing as Gwen looks like Glory i suppose it could be him, it looks a lil like him around the eyes, looks too rough and manly to be Lyndsey though, know what i mean?

[VisionGuy]

That cover looks great. Definitely the best one.

[GATEGOD]

Here's one of the alt covers for First Night (Part 2). It's one of best. The art is by the Sharp Brothers and the colouring is by Art Lyon.

http://comics.virtualslayer.net/AAtF07B.jpg

I'm gonna go ahead and say that the mystery man is Lindsey!!!

It looks like Spike/Wesley will have a bigger role in the issue, only going on that cause they are featured more prominently than the others.

I could be wrong. Gunn looks sad though, that can't be good? can it? Maybe it's anger? Oh, and Lorne, I'd love to see him in the comic as well.

[Cordelia Chase*]

I thought I heard that the First Night comics were right after the battle began. Thats why we didnt see a scar on Gunns face from the other cover. And yea, thats Lindsay. If you get a pic of comic wWes and place it beside him, you'll see the look different. But I could be wrong. After all, Lindsay did die......

[Allycat]

Well, there's a big difference between AAtF1-I've-been-a-ghost-in-hell-for-three-months-Wesley and the Wesley we saw die in NFA. I guess the cover issue might just be the latter rather than the former.

Just a side note, First Night doesn't pick up right where NFA left of. It's not two big issues with just a lot of fighting in it. They're a collection of shorter stories each focusing on a different character about their first nights in Hell. This coincidentally happens to be right after the alley fight, but we won't get to see that in lots of details. Mostly, because that just be one big issue with nothing but hacking and slashing and Spike and Angel yelling watch out behind you to each other. It supposedly does feature some scenes from the fight though. Anyway, that's how Brian explained it.

[Cordelia Chase*]

Okay.....SHould be very interesting. I wanna know GUnn's story.

[Tranquillity]

don't know if a link has bee posted for the second Brian Lynch Q&A (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=335358&blogID=350453331)

it's worth a listen - there's a few interesting things in there. Including the fact that Spike knows that Connor is Angel's son. BL doesn't generally spoil in these things so i'm wondering if a) he just assumed that Spike would know about Connor after Origin or b) if how he finds out will be covered in 'First night' or will it jbe more how they teamed up.

[Buffy Summers]

More complete picture of First Night's cover here: RyallTime: "First Night" first look (http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/01/first-night-first-look.html)

Also RyallTime: A Lyon in winter (http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/01/lyon-in-winter.html)

[Lyri]

The full page of the latest cover has been revealed...including the previously blanked figure.

Spoiler (http://images.tfaw.com/covers_tfaw/400/fe/feb083847e.jpg)

still can't figure out who it is! lmao. i've got two ideas, but they're probably both wrong.

[Keanoite]

Is it Buffy?

* I keep thinking your me cuz of the sigs!*

[Lyri]

i don't think it's Buffy, 'cause that would just be confusing.


i'm thinking Darla or Cordelia.

*and yeah, right now sigs=confusion!!*

[nerd4hire]

We need an art person to fiddle with that picture to make it clearer. I lack the skills, but this is the closest I could come.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/Girl2.jpg

If you stand back from it a bit, I'm thinking Willow.

[Lyri]

there's no way i could do anything with that...we need EDB.

the hair looks kinda blonde, which is what made me think Darla at first, but then Cordy had blonde hair for a bit, right? definitely don't think it's Willow, thought, 'cause, again, confusing.

[nerd4hire]

I think that blond streak might be something I did. Like I said stand back from the screen a bit.

[GATEGOD]

With that quality it looks like a demon face.

[Tranquillity]

My first thought was Buffy, then, did the standing back a bit thing and still think she's quite Buffy-ish (or Dawnish, longshot i know and what possible purpose could she fulfil?) because of the way she is standing - it just reminds me of Buffy. I wouldn't mind if it was Cordy though, either would be cool.

[alexa]

My first reaction was Buffy, but Brian confirmed it's not Buffy on whedonesque.
I'm sort of annoyed frankly that we have to guess ;) I see the blonde also.. and Cordy was brown last time we saw her. I still really don't like Kate... but who knows who it is. Darla would be cool, but don't see her wearing jeans for some reason. Whoever it is.. it's big news if we're given a bloody blacked out image. grr

[nerd4hire]

I'm getting curious about Dawn now, because she was in School in Italy at the time of Damage, but wound up going to Berkely which I believe is around San Fransisco somewhere. So if she catches a flight from Rome she could have gone first to LA which would allow her to be sucked into Hell with the Angel crew. Dawn has a brown leather jacket doesn't she?

Here's another possibility, but I doubt it - Anne.

[Clem Rocks]

We need an art person to fiddle with that picture to make it clearer. I lack the skills, but this is the closest I could come.

Here's my first (and probably best) try

http://i31.tinypic.com/oihthc.png

To me it looks like a female blonde with a vampire game face on.....HARMONY! =D

[Evilyn]

Kinda looks like Faith to me. Could be Kate. I can't tell if the chick is a blonde or a brunette. When does this issue come out. I have to admit, I'm officially intrigued enough to keep reading.

[VisionGuy]

It didn't occur to me that it could be Kate. I would love it if she came back. Although it could also be Harmony. I don't think it's Cordelia.

[Evilyn]

Did we ever establish who the mystery DUDE is on the other cover. I was just thinkin' that it could be Doyle, couldn't it? Maybe?

[VisionGuy]

I think the mystery dude is Lindsey. Because that's the cover for the issue that takes place right after Not Fade Away right?

[Evilyn]

Oh, ok. I was just brain stormin' a bit. It had just dawned on me so I blurted it out. Lindsey, that makes sense.

[Clem Rocks]

It kinda looks like Lyndsey round the eyes, the rest doesn't though D=

[alexa]

I read that it had been confirmed that it is Wesley. But I can't personally confirm that because I haven't listened to the recent Lynch podcast.

[Allycat]

If we're talking about the one where the guy in a beige shirt is holding up a gun. That's Wesley. Chris Ryall (editor) confirmed that in his blog.

I tried to make the mystery woman picture clearer too, but I didn't get much further than the others that have tried. I did notice one significant detail... namely that she has something in her hand. I think it's a gun. Which supports my theory that it's Kate Lockley. I also did a (amateur) wireframe version of the picture, to more clearly establish what kind of clothing she's wearing and what her pose is. If you look at the shoes, they're pretty big and not too feminine. They're certainly not heals. Would Cordy ever wear that?

http://www.virtualslayer.net/private/kate.jpg

[nerd4hire]

If we're talking about the one where the guy in a beige shirt is holding up a gun. That's Wesley. Chris Ryall (editor) confirmed that in his blog.

So, would that mean Wesley becomes corporeal if he can hold a gun?

[VisionGuy]

If we're talking about the one where the guy in a beige shirt is holding up a gun. That's Wesley. Chris Ryall (editor) confirmed that in his blog.


Oh my bad. I thought they were asking about the other cover with all the differeny characters on it. Did anyone ever find out who that man was?

[alexa]

If we're talking about the one where the guy in a beige shirt is holding up a gun. That's Wesley. Chris Ryall (editor) confirmed that in his blog.

I tried to make the mystery woman picture clearer too, but I didn't get much further than the others that have tried. I did notice one significant detail... namely that she has something in her hand. I think it's a gun. Which supports my theory that it's Kate Lockley. I also did a (amateur) wireframe version of the picture, to more clearly establish what kind of clothing she's wearing and what her pose is. If you look at the shoes, they're pretty big and not too feminine. They're certainly not heals. Would Cordy ever wear that?

http://www.virtualslayer.net/private/kate.jpg

Nice job. And bummer.. looks like Kate with a gun.

[white avenger]

Nice job. And bummer.. looks like Kate with a gun.



Just a slight technical note: Kate was right handed and this figure is holding the gun or whatever in her left hand. May not mean a thing, but...

[Allycat]

Chris Ryall (Editor) posted the following preview page of Wesley's story from First Night on his blog. Art is by Nick Runge and colors by John Rauch.

AngelATF_Wesley_page3_COLOR.jpg (image) (http://bp3.blogger.com/_sWu0-rmtFZM/R63c_5-FgGI/AAAAAAAAAKk/lTD5bYNYEOI/s1600-h/AngelATF_Wesley_page3_COLOR.jpg)

Source: RyallTime (http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/)

[thegifting]

Chris Ryall (Editor) posted the following preview page of Wesley's story from First Night on his blog. Art is by Nick Runge and colors by John Rauch.

AngelATF_Wesley_page3_COLOR.jpg (image) (http://bp3.blogger.com/_sWu0-rmtFZM/R63c_5-FgGI/AAAAAAAAAKk/lTD5bYNYEOI/s1600-h/AngelATF_Wesley_page3_COLOR.jpg)

Source: RyallTime (http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/)

As nice and lovely as it seems, and would be, I recall Fred's soul being destroyed. This totally cheapens the significance of her death- though this could change with context (read: reading), I just find it deplorable.

[Allycat]

As nice and lovely as it seems, and would be, I recall Fred's soul being destroyed. This totally cheapens the significance of her death- though this could change with context (read: reading), I just find it deplorable.

Can you say... huh? This one page doesn't mean she's alive. Personally, I think it's a flashback to the pre-Illyria days.

[Tranquillity]

Yeah, i kinda assumed it was Wes dreaming or imagining how things could have been with Fred, makes her death sadder and more poignant.

[thegifting]

Yeah, i kinda assumed it was Wes dreaming or imagining how things could have been with Fred, makes her death sadder and more poignant.Can you say... huh? This one page doesn't mean she's alive. Personally, I think it's a flashback to the pre-Illyria days.

This is from First Night, which means Wesley is dead, and we saw what happened BEFORE, so this must be AFTER he passed.
Also, if you look at the backdrop of Wes and Fred kissing- what part of Los Angeles do you think that is? That's probably "where" Wesley "went" before the Senior Partners snatched him.

Seriously, if they have it that Fred's soul isn't either A) destroyed, as the told us it was or, B) infused with the essence of Illyria, then they're making unforgivable contanuity crimes.

[Allycat]

This is from First Night, which means Wesley is dead, and we saw what happened BEFORE, so this must be AFTER he passed.
Also, if you look at the backdrop of Wes and Fred kissing- what part of Los Angeles do you think that is? That's probably "where" Wesley "went" before the Senior Partners snatched him.

Seriously, if they have it that Fred's soul isn't either A) destroyed, as the told us it was or, B) infused with the essence of Illyria, then they're making unforgivable contanuity crimes.

It still could be a dream sequence. There's a tons of possibilities. Like you said, the backdrop doesn't look much like LA, so we don't even know where it is set.

[Otaku Mike]

I tried to make the mystery woman picture clearer too, but I didn't get much further than the others that have tried. I did notice one significant detail... namely that she has something in her hand. I think it's a gun. Which supports my theory that it's Kate Lockley. I also did a (amateur) wireframe version of the picture, to more clearly establish what kind of clothing she's wearing and what her pose is. If you look at the shoes, they're pretty big and not too feminine. They're certainly not heals. Would Cordy ever wear that?

I think it's Eve. She survived the collapse of the W&H building and is now out to kill Angel (to avenge Lindsey).

Mike

[Avatar]

Hi everyone I'm new :D I loove the Angel series, and one of my favorite characters is Cordelia, judging by that image in the darkness, well I found something alike!
Look at this pic of Cordy!!! it's like that image!!! Cause I'm new I can't post images until my 15th post, PLEASE look at the link on the title of my post, sorry mods for this, but it's important!!! :D
:D
And well even I thought it could be Eve. I throw away that idea when I read that In "First Night" we will see a character from the past that has been out for a while, sooo, I think on miracles and Cordy could be back :D

[nerd4hire]

Here ya go Avatar. Wanna see yours with the other?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/Girl2.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/Cordelia346.jpg

[VisionGuy]

Here ya go Avatar. Wanna see yours with the other?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/Girl2.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/JimJohn/Cordelia346.jpg

They do look similar. Who knows, maybe it is Cordelia. I'm thinking it's Kate though.

[Tranquillity]

I'd love it to be Cordy. Looking at that picture in ATF#4 - the one that Gunn stole with the whole family and baby Connor made me miss her and i even said "i want Cody back" out loud.

[Clem Rocks]

I thought Cordy looked more like Faith in the photo...

[VisionGuy]

I'd love it to be Cordy. Looking at that picture in ATF#4 - the one that Gunn stole with the whole family and baby Connor made me miss her and i even said "i want Cody back" out loud.

Yeah, it was cool seeing that picture. Isn't it a shame that everyone in the picture is dead but Angel and Connor. I really wouldn't want to have Cordelia back because I'm scared of how they might write her character.

[alexa]

Here's the covers for #8 and #9 both out in June

#8 Written by Joss Whedon and Brian Lynch, art by Tim Kale, David Messina and Mirco Pierfederici, covers by Messina and Brian Miller.

Angel ships bi-weekly in June! First up, Angel: After the Fall #8, concluding the stories of what happened to Angel's friends and family during their first night in hell. In this issue: Gwen begins to fulfill her destiny, Gunn begins his journey down the darkest path imaginable, and LA's citizens deal with being cast into Hell.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/angel8.jpg

#9 Written by Joss Whedon and Brian Lynch, art by Nick Runge, covers by Runge and Alex Garner.

The second of two Angel issues arrives this month, and it brings with it a new artist, Nick Runge (artist on the "First Night" Wesley story). The gang's all here as the forces of evil attack from all sides. But Angel's not just fighting for his own life, the fate of someone he never thought he'd see again hangs in the balance.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/angel9a.jpg http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/angel9b.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/idwjune.htm

Is anyone else confused about the numbering? So #5 is about to come out.. then is it 6 and 7 are FirstNight along with 8?

[nerd4hire]

the fate of someone he never thought he'd see again hangs in the balance.

So is that picture saying it's Fred, or could it be Cordelia, or somebody else? Or I don't know, do dead people have fates?

[alexa]

I'm assuming it's Fred because they have attached photo covers with Fred and Illyria... kinda odd though, I thought there would be a penciled variant rather then lots of photo covers.

[Allycat]

I'm guessing Fred's the character that gets to return. ANGEL: AFTER THE FALL HC

Did anyone also see this one? I'm assuming it's a TPB. But what does it collect?!

Written by Joss Whedon and Brian Lynch, art and cover by Franco Urru.

In Angel's final television season, his world endedŠ but his story didn't. Now, IDW Publishing is presents the story of Angel: After the Fall, as presided over by Angel co-creator Joss Whedon, along with his hand-picked creative team, Brian Lynch and Franco Urru. Picking up where Season Five of the fan-favorite TV show left off, this hardcover edition looks at who lived after that climactic battle, who died, and what happened to all of Los Angeles in its wake. Features an art gallery from acclaimed artists Tony Harris, Andrew Robinson, and Urru.

192 pages, $24.99.

[goldenboy]

So, #9 has Nick Runge doing pencils. OK, this is getting good. What's with that cover with Angel and the apocalypse in the background? He doesn't seem too concerned :)

That hardcover is huge. I'd guess it's packed with reprints of covers and...whatever else...?

[Allycat]

Since most issues seems to be 23 pages, it could be that they're planning on having this TPB collected Issues 1-8 (so including First Night) although that makes little sense.

[goldenboy]

If it were a typical TPB...it's AtF 1-5. But maybe it's just got tons of padding. The "art gallery", with covers, sketches, and maybe text, commentary from Lynch? I dunno.

[Clem Rocks]

So from #9 onwards, no more Urru? =D!

[Allycat]

With only one more day until issue 5 comes out, Chris Ryall posted a preview page from the issue. It's page 15.

http://whedon.info/IMG/jpg/angel-after-the-fall-comic-book-issue-5-page-preview-mq-01.jpg

Source: RyallTime: IDW releases for 3/19/08 (http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/03/idw-releases-for-31908.html)

[thegifting]

They better come up with some amazing cohesion, and quick, because ATF is all over the place.

Here's the covers for #8 and #9 both out in June



http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/angel8.jpg



http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/angel9a.jpg http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/angel9b.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0803/17/idwjune.htm

Is anyone else confused about the numbering? So #5 is about to come out.. then is it 6 and 7 are FirstNight along with 8?

Edit:

This makes me think that Wesley was called into the boss' office...

With only one more day until issue 5 comes out, Chris Ryall posted a preview page from the issue. It's page 15.

http://whedon.info/IMG/jpg/angel-after-the-fall-comic-book-issue-5-page-preview-mq-01.jpg

Source: RyallTime: IDW releases for 3/19/08 (http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/03/idw-releases-for-31908.html)

[nerd4hire]

OK, I'm not a big fan of the A:AtF covers up until now, but that Angel and the Dragon headshot one is not bad at all, and this new one for # 10, even I have to say...Wow!

Here's a link (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=335358&blogID=371341229&Mytoken=63177160-5510-4D89-9EFD51CA79956D0D8729190)

[Slayerfest 99]

OK, I'm not a big fan of the A:AtF covers up until now, but that Angel and the Dragon headshot one is not bad at all, and this new one for # 10, even I have to say...Wow!

Here's a link (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=335358&blogID=371341229&Mytoken=63177160-5510-4D89-9EFD51CA79956D0D8729190)



:buble_eye That looks so freaking awesome!!!!

[goldenboy]

Honestly, I was starting to dread the slog through this series (that you couldn't not read), but the art's looking so dang promising now, inside and out. Yay Alex Garner!

[white avenger]

On the Angel cover, am I imagining things, or are there 2 dragons? One above Angel, and one just over his left shoulder.

[goldenboy]

There are definitely two winged somethings there. They're so far in the background. Not sure.

[Clem Rocks]

I see no dragons or winged creatures of any kind on that cover...

and it looks like Angel is breathing in Illyria's essence o_O

[goldenboy]

I believe WA was referring to that cover farther back in this thread (the one with the "I Heart L A" in the background).

[celestialarrow]

okay i love fred to death but we have illyria and though technically it's not fred at least its apart of her i'm praying its my cordelia because i'd love to she her back at angel's side using her demonic powers comicbook style.

[Allycat]

I believe WA was referring to that cover farther back in this thread (the one with the "I Heart L A" in the background).

Those are two winged creatures that much is certain. But If you compared their size to the size of the windows on the sky-scrapers, I'd have to say that they're not much bigger than humans, possibly even smaller.

And yes, Alex Garner is Angel's Jo Chen.

[Clem Rocks]

I believe WA was referring to that cover farther back in this thread (the one with the "I Heart L A" in the background).

Ah! Thought he meant the new one

[Allycat]

I don't know if you can really call these spoilers, because issues 6 came out today (officially, though many of us won't get it till tomorrow or even later). Any way Chris Ryall posted preview pages of issue 6 yesterday. They're pretty interesting, because they're not finished yet. It gives you an idea what goes in to making a comic.

RyallTime: This week's new releases (http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/04/this-weeks-new-releases.html)

[Allycat]

Chris Ryall posted another preview page, this one for issue 9 (page 16). It's the first post-FN preview. He commented about this page that

[This issue] will have special meaning to anyone who's familiar with Brian Lynch's pre-IDW comics work.

I think that the guy in the Burge-shirt is supposed to be Nikel 7 and the ginger-guy is called The Geek. They're characters from the Angry Naked Pat series.

AngelAF09pg16colors.jpg (image) (http://bp2.blogger.com/_sWu0-rmtFZM/R_5ZgP4GFrI/AAAAAAAAAeg/bZVDt3CJFWg/s1600-h/AngelAF09pg16colors.jpg)

[thegifting]

Ryall released the cover for issue 9, and I nearly died then from being so completely content with the world. This, + issue 10's cover are straight killing it.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb241/argonandtrash/Angel9CoverFINAL.jpg

[Allycat]

One of the best covers yet. It's amazing!

[Clem Rocks]

....Woah......nice....O_O

[Clem Rocks]

Some new info here from Brian's new blog

1. Betta George makes a fairly Earth-Shattering discovery in issue 10.

2. Angel gets a new yet oddly familiar nickname in issue 9.

3. Connor reveals a whole hell of a lot to Angel in issue 9.

4. We find out who turned Gunn in issue 8.

5. Nick Runge handles the art for issue 10, save for 2 pages, which have to do be done in a different style for story purposes.

6. Death is coming.

http://bloglynch.blogspot.com/2008/05/angelafter-fall-fun-facts.html

[thegifting]

I'm dying in between issues. 10, I think, is going to be the most epic thing in the world.

[Tranquillity]

Covers for #12:

http://comicsnewsi.net/g/?mode=view&album=IDW%2FSolicitations%2FSeptember_08&pic=AngelAtF12_NickRunge.jpg&dispsize=800&start=0

Angel: After the Fall 12 Cover by ~AlexGarner on deviantART (http://alexgarner.deviantart.com/art/Angel-After-the-Fall-12-Cover-89180708)

[Superstar]

Thanks!

I saw those earlier.
The two taken together kinda gives the impression that Angel is finally taking that long deserved permanent dirt-nap.

But... it's not the last issue of the series so I suspect that it has something to do with the human pretending to be a vampire aspect.
I'm still curious as to what that whole human-now storyline is about anyway.

[Superstar]

There appears to be some additional information from Bryan Lynch:

The cover is more symbolic. At no point do Connor, Fred and Spike gather 'round a grave in the woods. But what it's "saying", that's pretty spot-on.

Brian Lynch | July 01, 21:05 CET

Whedonesque : Comments on 16754 : (SPOILER) The second cover for Angel:ATF #12 has been released. (http://whedonesque.com/comments/16754)

[Allycat]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/cons/cci2008/idwpanel/AngelAtF14_Runge_FINAL.jpg

The Runge-cover for issue 14... the bearded guy looks like Dracula.

[Allycat]

Some more spoilers and a little bit of news for A:AtF from a blog-post by Brian.

Nick Runge will not be doing any more interior art after issue 11. He will still be providing the covers. Stephen Mooney will be doing the art for issues 12-16.

Franco Urru does one of the covers for issue 15.
Urru Cover #15 (http://bp3.blogger.com/_npCa0ZKo4i8/SJAIyJJ1vZI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/afUkadJeP-k/s1600-h/-1.jpeg)

Brian posted a few preview pictures from issue 12 with Mooney's Art.
Wesley & Gunn 1 (http://bp3.blogger.com/_npCa0ZKo4i8/SJAFoERBlrI/AAAAAAAAAJc/SvbaClluMek/s1600-h/wesgunnpic.jpg)
Wesley & Gunn 2 (http://bp3.blogger.com/_npCa0ZKo4i8/SJAH2SwcLfI/AAAAAAAAAJk/PIcXbf9OhBQ/s1600-h/gunnpic.jpg)
Spike (http://bp1.blogger.com/_npCa0ZKo4i8/SJAIL5-g5JI/AAAAAAAAAJs/ZFIzDZSgxx0/s1600-h/spikepic.jpg)

Source:Brian Lynch: Sneak Preview! (http://bloglynch.blogspot.com/2008/07/mooney-franco.html)

[Tranquillity]

Thanks for those links Allycat. I love that Urru cover - its soooo masculine. and in the Spike panel, is that a reappearnce of the black nail polish?

[Allycat]

Cover for Issue 13 by Alex Garner... looks great.

http://alexgarner.deviantart.com/art/Angel-After-the-Fall-13-Cover-94787226

if the above picture doesn't show: Angel: After the Fall 13 Cover by *AlexGarner on deviantART (http://alexgarner.deviantart.com/art/Angel-After-the-Fall-13-Cover-94787226)

[Allycat]

The Alex Garner cover for issue 14. Like pretty much everyone who sees this, I'm wondering who or what the giant-helmed-cycloptic-squid is.

http://comicsnewsi.net//g/albums/IDW/Solicitations/November_2008/AngelAtF14_Garner_Previews.jpg

[Clem Rocks]

Could squidy possible be WR&H's Failsafe?

Edit:

Oh no, wait, it's Illyria =O

[Allycat]

If you look at a still from the book in which it showed Illyria's original form, you'll see Clem Rocks looks to be right:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Illyria_original.jpg

[ItMustBeBunnies]

Ive been lookin to buy this, but I cant find it! Anyone from Australia know if its out here and were I can get it?. They've got the Buffy ones so I dont get why the Angel ones cant be found!

[Tranquillity]

I'm from Australia (Brisbane) and have had no problems getting it - you should probably order it from your comic shop, i've noticed that it sells out fast and that they (the comic shops) probably don't order as many copies as they do with other titles. Do try and get it (and Spike: After the Fall) because it totally rocks!

[VisionGuy]

The Alex Garner cover for issue 14. Like pretty much everyone who sees this, I'm wondering who or what the giant-helmed-cycloptic-squid is.

http://comicsnewsi.net//g/albums/IDW/Solicitations/November_2008/AngelAtF14_Garner_Previews.jpg

Holy freaking crap. That looks awesome.