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Chasing Cordy
02-28-2008, 08:09 AM
To me there are a few roles in the series that are stereo-typical.

But which of them was done the best?

Cangel
02-28-2008, 08:26 AM
lol, even before I saw the poll my first thought was 'Cordy the cheerleader in season one'
geeky WIllow was a great stereotype as well, but she wasn't enough geek, which is good, don't get me wrong. I think the stereotype of geek always wears glasses etc. It was probably good they didn't give WIllow this typical geek look, but it makes it less stereotypical imo.

LittleMissLikesToFight
02-28-2008, 09:59 AM
I first thought of early Cordy too, but also Johnathon, especially in the beginning. He was the quintessential nerd/outcast.

Buffy obsessed fan
02-28-2008, 10:09 AM
I'm not really sure. I think Cordy began off as being a little to over the top, and Willow wasn't as nerdy as a lot of people. I'd, honestly, go with Xander. That's the perfect portrayal of what being the one left out is like! I'm always left out, and I crack jokes and stuff, trying to make things seem better, and no one really notices half of what I do. I think he's character was pretty good stereo-type.

Joyce Summers
02-28-2008, 11:33 AM
I think Cordelia was the most stereotyped because I think you needed that to contrast against the realism we got from the Scooby Gang.
I think Joss said there was a lot of issues with getting Willow right at the beginning. He didn't want the bombshell-behind-glasses typical deal or the gorgeous yet inadvertently intelligent or even completely geeky; he wanted a mixture of everything which is what he got with Willow in the end (with Alyson Hannigan cast as the role I mean) which sort of stopped her from being a stereotype. Yes she could be classed as 'the geek' in the dynamic but it was never in a stereotypical way. The network did complain in the beginning though demanding Joss trendy Willow up clothes wise- thank god he refused! The quirky clothes MADE Willow!
Cordelia on the other hand was the typical Cheerleader. Though naturally she progressed past that by the season one finale though she still retained her lack of tact :biggrin:

DarklyDreamingDrusilla
02-28-2008, 06:54 PM
I would say that Cordy was the definition of the popular brat in the early seasons. She had her own little clique and everything. I would also have to agree with LMLTF on Jonathon who was the the biggest nerd! But I think that in the early seasons of Buffy they always had huge sterotypes like in School Hard Shelia was your typical rebel. She didn't go to class, she dated the dangerous guy, and was just not one to conform. We also had Larry who was your typical jock jerk until we found out that he was gay. I could probably go on for a while but I will leave it at that. =)

Joyce Summers
02-28-2008, 07:04 PM
I think that was how it went for most of the characters. In season one we started off with a typical affluent south californian high school with the typical cliques and all the stereotypical students; nerd, outside, joker, cheerleader, geek, loner, jock etc etc but by the end of season 3 Joss and the other writers had managed to subvert all those stereotypes, turning them round completely.
Willow, the geek originally- a place in high school considered to be without power at all- was fast becoming an accomplished witch, or at least on her way, which is a direct source of power.
Cordelia the cheerleader by the end of the series had lost her money and status and risked her status in high school to do the right thing; definitely not the shallow girl we first met.
Buffy, the outsider, was shown in Prom and Graduation to be more on the inside with everyone than even she knew.
Larry, the jock, had turned into a sensitive (and homosexueal) soul who was friendly and supportive with everyone.

I could go on but like DDD I'm gonna leave it at that, haha

Crazy Flakes
03-09-2008, 03:29 PM
I'm surprised everyone's left out Giles and pre-Angel Wesley. They were the stereotypical, tea-drinking, stuffy, ridiculously smart British men. I have to say, I loved the 'nancy tribe', especially with Giles calling Wesley a berk and the whole coffee vs. tea thing...oh, and, of course, Spike's realization in Tabula Rasa.

~angelic slayer~
03-18-2008, 08:23 PM
Definitely think Giles did the stereotype very well, going from the classic "British Guy" to an American with STRONG British roots, really chilled off.

Also thought Harmony did a great job too, just because she's one of the few characters that DIDN'T change, which is definitely the case with some people :silly:

DeadButStillPretty
03-19-2008, 02:26 AM
Dawn was the typical bratty kid sister who didn't stop poking her nose in Buffy's business.

white avenger
03-19-2008, 06:13 AM
I can't believe that you've all missed the one really classic stereotype in the entire series: The tall, dark, brooding hero, usually a loner, tortured by the atrocities in his past, really terrible crimes against society that he is now trying desperately to atone far. The hero who takes it upon himself, without being asked to, to protect the community from the bad guys, some of whom he used to associate with in the "bad old days," but who now despise him and plot against him for what they consider his betrayal of their "code."

He's the hero who at first loves the sweet little heroine from afar, hesitant to reveal his true feelings to her because he feels unworthy of her love and somehow tainted by his past, and determines to protect her and her circle of friends, at least some of whom dislike, distrust, and even hate him, but who, through his determination and perseverance at last becomes accepted into their inner circle. And last but most certainly not least, because of some dire event in his past, can never be with the one he loves.

Do I even have to name him?

AmyGil
03-19-2008, 02:50 PM
I definitly would say that Angel is a huge stereotypical brooding hero, and of course they had to make him gorgeous as well just to push the cliche over the top.

InsaneMystic
04-08-2008, 09:43 AM
Impossible to decide for me, just too many to choose from.

@ Social Suicide: If you "complain" that early Willow didn't have glasses (point taken!), I'd be forced to also "complain" that Cordy isn't blonde... now that would have maxed the stereotype ponits. :silly:

Cangel
04-08-2008, 02:24 PM
Impossible to decide for me, just too many to choose from.

@ Social Suicide: If you "complain" that early Willow didn't have glasses (point taken!), I'd be forced to also "complain" that Cordy isn't blonde... now that would have maxed the stereotype ponits. :silly:

I'm gonna have to say Cordy WAS blonde in later seasons :p
Okay, maybe Charisma Carpenter should've played Buffy and SMG Cordy ... THEN we'd have a real great stereotype cheerleader ... although I'm not sure SMG could've pulled the meanness off like CC

Hello Cutie
04-08-2008, 02:57 PM
Everyone seems to say Cordelia season 1. And yes, a brilliant portrayal it was indeed.
But I'm going to break the mould and go for consistently brilliant stereotypical portrayal throughout all of Buffy and Angel in the shape of Harmony.

I mean, I read stereotypical and I thought Harmony. What's more stereotypical than the bitchy popular girl at school, who then tries (and fails) to find her place in the real world, beause she still thinks everything is like high school? She's the whole shebang- bitchy, selfish, ditzy and blonde- all the best stereotypes put into a wonderfully portrayed character.

She's just amazing!

Bangelxx
04-08-2008, 03:07 PM
yup,I'd say angel&cordy.Angel is very stereotypical broody guy and whats not to like:p? and cordy, in the early seasons....wooh, i see a lot of them around my school!