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Edmund Blackadder
03-15-2008, 06:46 PM
Was it ever explained HOW Buffy managed to close the portal?
We were told that once the portal was opened the only way to close it was when Dawn stopped bleeding - if Buffy jumped into the portal that didn't stop Dawn bleeding, just added more blood to the mix.
PLUS, I don't get how Buffy's blood DID close it.
Dawn was created using Buffy's blood, thats true BUT the essense of the Key was in Dawn. That didn't get transferred to Buffy, that was all Dawn.
I don't listen to the commentaries nor read that much online except what is here, so please does anyone have a definitive answer to the above?
Theories are welcome, BUT if it is a theory, say it is.
Blondie Bear
03-15-2008, 06:53 PM
Yeah, that was one of those cute little sidesteps by the writers. It all seemed very deep and meaningful until you look at it and go "Wait. . . ." As far as I can tell (and this is a theory) Dawn's blood was necessary to open the gate because she's the key, but as far as closing it, as long as it got a human body's worth of blood that matched Dawn's (which Buffy's did), it didn't matter whether it was key-blood or not.
Cangel
03-15-2008, 06:59 PM
Okay, I have no idea what I'm talking about, so I guess it's theory ;)
I think that by turning the key into a girl, the key was now completely in her form. So because she was made of Buffy's blood, there were like 2 keys. Buffy wasn't really one, but think of her as a duplicate.
So when she jumped into the portal, it must've registered as the key, who was now gone and ergo it closed.
I think of it like when you get an ordinary key replicated, you can use the newly made one just like your old key.
Dunno if this makes any sense, but that's what my theory is.
VisionGuy
03-15-2008, 07:02 PM
But didn't Buffy and Dawn mix their blood together in that episode where Dawn found out she was the key? Like when Buffy took her hand and said, "Summer's blood, it's just like mine,." then clasped Dawn's, I was always under the impression that she mixed her blood with Dawn's or something. Does anybody know what I'm saying? LOL
Edmund Blackadder
03-15-2008, 07:06 PM
Yeah, that was one of those cute little sidesteps by the writers. It all seemed very deep and meaningful until you look at it and go "Wait. . . ." As far as I can tell (and this is a theory) Dawn's blood was necessary to open the gate because she's the key, but as far as closing it, as long as it got a human body's worth of blood that matched Dawn's (which Buffy's did), it didn't matter whether it was key-blood or not.
That theory would work for me except it doesn't quite fit all the facts.
I mean, I won't lose any sleep over it, just wondered if Joss gave a canon explanation or if it was a further point for me to use in my bid to show the Buffy fans that Joss isn't 'God' like most believe him to be.
Ohh and Blondie Bear - what did I notice too in the few questions thread?
That there is an element of the Buffyverse that are mindless automotons that show no real opinion of their own and need Joss to detail everything for them because they don't have the cognitive ability to be an individual with said opinion?
Blondie Bear
03-15-2008, 07:12 PM
That theory would work for me except it doesn't quite fit all the facts.
Which facts did I miss? (Not being snarky, I'm seriously curious.)
Ohh and Blondie Bear - what did I notice too in the few questions thread?
That there is an element of the Buffyverse that are mindless automotons that show no real opinion of their own and need Joss to detail everything for them because they don't have the cognitive ability to be an individual with said opinion?
I'm sure you're being horrendously snarky here, but it's going over my head. I do think that there are people who do that. I like to think that I'm not one of them.
Edmund Blackadder
03-15-2008, 07:19 PM
But didn't Buffy and Dawn mix their blood together in that episode where Dawn found out she was the key? Like when Buffy took her hand and said, "Summer's blood, it's just like mine,." then clasped Dawn's, I was always under the impression that she mixed her blood with Dawn's or something. Does anybody know what I'm saying? LOL
There is an element of that which makes sense, HOWEVER, the fact remains we're told the blood has to stop running and Dawn was still bleeding when Buffy karked it.
Plus, I'm not entirely convinced the blood swapping thing really works.
I mean, if Buffy had an accident and we had Dawn give her a proper blood transfusion, I'd be on this one, but it just seems a little blah.
Edit:
Which facts did I miss? (Not being snarky, I'm seriously curious.)
The biggest one is that we're told that it would take Dawn, The Key, to be bled dry(actually, it was the depletion of the energy that is the Key) to run out before the portal could close.
I'm sure you're being horrendously snarky here, but it's going over my head. I do think that there are people who do that. I like to think that I'm not one of them.
I wasn't being 'snarky' I was merely pointing out a fact.
There are some people who really do not have an original opinion especially in the Buffyverse and need Joss to tell them what to think.
However, you're definitely not of that catagory, it was in NO WAY an attack on you.
Blondie Bear
03-15-2008, 07:22 PM
The biggest one is that we're told that it would take Dawn, The Key, to be bled dry(actually, it was the depletion of the energy that is the Key) to run out before the portal could close.
And I just thought of another one: Buffy didn't bleed.
Eh, by that time I usually just think Buffy should chunk Dawn into the portal and have done with it.
I wasn't being 'snarky' I was merely pointing out a fact.
There are some people who really do not have an original opinion especially in the Buffyverse and need Joss to tell them what to think.
However, you're definitely not of that catagory, it was in NO WAY an attack on you.
Ah, okay. The text-only-medium curse strikes again. But, yeah, those people who read other people's theories and opinions and demand to know where Joss said that drive me insane. He left so much open to our own interpretation because he assumed his audience would be intelligent. Which I appreciate; I hate it when writers (tv, books, or movies) write down to me.
Dlou444
03-15-2008, 07:23 PM
Oddly enough, I've always felt there was a GIANT hole there for all of us to fall into.
It's never made a whole lot of sense to me.
I mean, I get the idea of "Summers blood" and stuff, but it's SO loose of a theory that it doesn't float well when you honestly think about it.
"Summer's Blood" doesn't mean squat to me. Hank has Summer's blood. In fact, as far as the immediate familly, he is the ONLY one with Summer's blood. Buffy and Dawn also have Joyce blood.
And the Monk's made her into a SISTER, not an identical twin. I don't have the same blood as MY sister and brother. Not the same DNA, and maybe not even the same blood type. They didn't have Buffy there to even COMPARE her blood and all the "crazy" people kept seeing her as light, not blood and bone. For most of the season, I imagined her as a very complex hologram until they started throwing the "blood" thing around.
And, you're right, Dawn started bleeding and they never stopped that (except for natural clotting and/or stitches later.)
Buffy's not the key. Dawn is the key. She can open the door, there is no reason Buffy should be able to close it...unless she could also open it. So, Glory could have just as easily gone after her.
I don't think it was a plan they really sat and mulled over. They seemed to think a LOT about getting Dawn there, but no so much on the exit strategy.
Aussie
03-15-2008, 08:22 PM
My theory is that Dawn was the Key, once she was bled she was no longer the key and blood/death of a human closed the portal. I dont think that it mattered what human/blood was sacrificed as the key no longer existed. Buffy was there so she jumped. What do you think? I havent put a whole lot of thought into it because this explained it for me......
Black Eye Guy
03-15-2008, 08:37 PM
^The 'summers blood' saying was only to make Dawn feel part of the family it wasn't really that big of a deal.
I always took it as Dawn did have the same blood as Buffy. The key was was transformed into Dawn but she did have Buffy's blood running through her, Dawns blood also acted like the physical form of the key.
Dawn was cut and the blood opened the portal. Giles said that the portal would close when the blood stopped running, when Dawn was dead.
What Buffy did was trick the portal. When she jumped in, the portal recognized the same blood so when Buffy died the portal did too. Like as far as the portal knew Dawn was the one who had jumped.
Thats just my theory, cuz I don't think it really makes sense, if Buffy was able to close it, she probably should have been able to open it as well.
Clem Rocks
03-15-2008, 10:12 PM
^The 'summers blood' saying was only to make Dawn feel part of the family it wasn't really that big of a deal.
I always took it as Dawn did have the same blood as Buffy. The key was was transformed into Dawn but she did have Buffy's blood running through her, Dawns blood also acted like the physical form of the key.
Dawn was cut and the blood opened the portal. Giles said that the portal would close when the blood stopped running, when Dawn was dead.
What Buffy did was trick the portal. When she jumped in, the portal recognized the same blood so when Buffy died the portal did too. Like as far as the portal knew Dawn was the one who had jumped.
Thats just my theory, cuz I don't think it really makes sense, if Buffy was able to close it, she probably should have been able to open it as well.
Exactly how i always thought of it, and you've explained it the best way in this whole thread
And Buffy probably could open the portal, but lets face it, would Glory really be smart enough to figure that out? XD
^The 'summers blood' saying was only to make Dawn feel part of the family it wasn't really that big of a deal.
I always took it as Dawn did have the same blood as Buffy. The key was was transformed into Dawn but she did have Buffy's blood running through her, Dawns blood also acted like the physical form of the key.
Dawn was cut and the blood opened the portal. Giles said that the portal would close when the blood stopped running, when Dawn was dead.
What Buffy did was trick the portal. When she jumped in, the portal recognized the same blood so when Buffy died the portal did too. Like as far as the portal knew Dawn was the one who had jumped.
Thats just my theory, cuz I don't think it really makes sense, if Buffy was able to close it, she probably should have been able to open it as well.
That's pretty much what I thought. Dawn and share a blood link which gives them similar mystical properties. This was actually consistently written because the same thing thing happens with Jasmine, Cordy and Connor. What Buffy should have said was it was the same genetic material.
Edmund Blackadder
03-16-2008, 08:29 AM
^The 'summers blood' saying was only to make Dawn feel part of the family it wasn't really that big of a deal.
I always took it as Dawn did have the same blood as Buffy. The key was was transformed into Dawn but she did have Buffy's blood running through her, Dawns blood also acted like the physical form of the key.
Dawn was cut and the blood opened the portal. Giles said that the portal would close when the blood stopped running, when Dawn was dead.
What Buffy did was trick the portal. When she jumped in, the portal recognized the same blood so when Buffy died the portal did too. Like as far as the portal knew Dawn was the one who had jumped.
Thats just my theory, cuz I don't think it really makes sense, if Buffy was able to close it, she probably should have been able to open it as well.
Firstly, the 'Summers Blood' deal wasn't just to make Dawn feel part of the Family. If that was the case then there would be an even bigger issue. Dawn was created and Buffy's blood was the template. Buffy is a Summers Blood girl, so Dawn must be.
As per Dawns blood/key energy well here is the thing.
The blood wasn't the Key energy, it was the what what held the energy.
Like how blood carries Oxygen around the body, thats how I took it which is far more plausible than turning Buffy's blood into the energy carrying Blood.
If that is the case, no amount of Buffy sacrificing herself would close the portal UNLESS all it took was a sufficient amount of blood from anyone. If that is the case, the whole thing is kinda pointless and doesn't make sense. I can't open my door with one key and close it with a different one!
It does make some sense but if thats what Joss was trying to get across, then he really didn't do that great a job.
Exactly how i always thought of it, and you've explained it the best way in this whole thread
And Buffy probably could open the portal, but lets face it, would Glory really be smart enough to figure that out? XD
How could Buffy open the portal?
What evidence supports this?
Buffy was not the Key, she was not created with 'Key energy' Dawn was.
You seem to have confused the blood with the energy.
So Glory didn't need to work that out, so I guess she was smart enough to make the distinction between blood and the Key.
That's pretty much what I thought. Dawn and share a blood link which gives them similar mystical properties. This was actually consistently written because the same thing thing happens with Jasmine, Cordy and Connor. What Buffy should have said was it was the same genetic material.
Again, Connor/Cordy/Jasmine is different.
Jasmine was born and her 'parents' are Connor and Cordy.
It was this blood connection that could reveal who Jasmine was. This isn't the same as Dawn at all.
Buffy was correct that Dawn was created from her blood, it was genetic material.
Keanoite
03-16-2008, 08:51 AM
I'm just wondering if Buffy's blood was the same as Dawn's and was enough to close the portal, should Joyce's death have had some effect on it?
Since Buffy was able to close the portal, even though she wasn't bleeding or the key for that matter, shouldn't Joyce's death have been able to put the kabosh in the whole thing?
If anyone has seen the Trek episode "Obsession" or read the Vampire Chronicles then there are two similar situations.
An energy cloud creature and a molevalent spirit, both energy clouds similar to the nature of the portal that could envelop a Human being, and drain them completely of blood through millions of microscopic punctures in the skin that drained the person in seconds.
If the portal was similar, it could have covered all of Buffy's skin, broken it on a scale too small to be seen and drained her before letting her body fall.
The Chosen
03-16-2008, 12:18 PM
Since Buffy was able to close the portal, even though she wasn't bleeding or the key for that matter, shouldn't Joyce's death have been able to put the kabosh in the whole thing?
I don't think so. Wasn't it that you could only close the portal if it was opened? Like you could only close a door if it was opened. Say Joyce's death would have affected the closing of an elevator door -- she can't close the elevator door if it isn't open. Does that make ANY sense at all?
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Or did you mean that since she died it shouldn't have been able to open at all? If that's what you're saying, I think I get it. But then couldn't we go all the way back to Buffy's first death and say the same thing? Or Buffy's cousin's death? Not sure if Cecilia had Summers blood, but I'm just sayin'...
Keanoite
03-16-2008, 12:26 PM
I don't think so. Wasn't it that you could only close the portal if it was opened? Like you could only close a door if it was opened. Say Joyce's death would have affected the closing of an elevator door -- she can't close the elevator door if it isn't open. Does that make ANY sense at all?
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Or did you mean that since she died it shouldn't have been able to open at all? If that's what you're saying, I think I get it. But then couldn't we go all the way back to Buffy's first death and say the same thing? Or Buffy's cousin's death? Not sure if Cecilia had Summers blood, but I'm just sayin'...
It was the second one that I meant but I see what you mean about going back but when all those people died Dawn didn't exist. The Key was just energy with no connections to anything Summers. It's just a random thought like but since so many people were trying to prevent the portal opening by killing Dawn and sicne Buffy closed the portal I just wondered should Joyce's death have stopped it happening?
The Chosen
03-16-2008, 12:31 PM
It was the second one that I meant but I see what you mean about going back but when all those people died Dawn didn't exist. The Key was just energy with no connections to anything Summers. It's just a random thought like but since so many people were trying to prevent the portal opening by killing Dawn and sicne Buffy closed the portal I just wondered should Joyce's death have stopped it happening?
I really like that question, Kean. I just wish we had a bona fide answer...
It was always kind of my theory (and I guess a few other people's) that since Dawn was made from Buffy's blood, they were both "the Key." I liked (and agree) with what VG said about D and B mixing their blood. (I won't ever say "D and B" again. I promise.)
Although this thread is making me think the whole thing is just a huge inconsistency on Mutant Enemy's part. I mean, how come we're able to question it so easily?
Dlou444
03-16-2008, 02:31 PM
How could Buffy open the portal?
What evidence supports this?
Buffy was not the Key, she was not created with 'Key energy' Dawn was.
You seem to have confused the blood with the energy.
So Glory didn't need to work that out, so I guess she was smart enough to make the distinction between blood and the Key.
Of course the only evidence that Buffy COULD have opened the portal would based on the theory (the wide theory) that since Buffy and Dawn had the "same blood" that when Dawn's started flowing, Buffy could throw herself in, her blood would stop flowing (because she died) and the portal was either happy or confused and closed.
In which case, if Buffy's blood is enough to either satisfy or confuse the portal into thinking that the "key's" blood stopped it, then one would have to assume she also could have opened it.
Remember, the "key" was not always a person. If they had made it into the Energizer Bunny, it would have opened when the bunny started and closed when the bunny stopped. (Which may have been never and we'd all have been doomed...thank God they went with Dawn and not the bunny. Dawn was more fun to watch than Anya freaking out all season too!)
Buffy couldn't have satisfied OR fooled the portal if the key had been the bunny. It only worked because Dawn was a human, her sister, and supposedly from her blood. The evidence would be that she DID close the portal...the rest is less evidence than logic, that if she could close it, she should have been able to open it.
But, since there is more than one weird hole in S5's ending...it could be nearly impossible to ever get an answer. Even asking Joss could be iffy. I bet it's hard, even with writers like Mutant Enemy had where everyone is really good, to "get" what's in everyone's head at one time. There may be 5 versions of what THEY think happened.
Edmund Blackadder
03-16-2008, 02:49 PM
Of course the only evidence that Buffy COULD have opened the portal would based on the theory (the wide theory) that since Buffy and Dawn had the "same blood" that when Dawn's started flowing, Buffy could throw herself in, her blood would stop flowing (because she died) and the portal was either happy or confused and closed.
In which case, if Buffy's blood is enough to either satisfy or confuse the portal into thinking that the "key's" blood stopped it, then one would have to assume she also could have opened it.
Remember, the "key" was not always a person. If they had made it into the Energizer Bunny, it would have opened when the bunny started and closed when the bunny stopped. (Which may have been never and we'd all have been doomed...thank God they went with Dawn and not the bunny. Dawn was more fun to watch than Anya freaking out all season too!)
Buffy couldn't have satisfied OR fooled the portal if the key had been the bunny. It only worked because Dawn was a human, her sister, and supposedly from her blood. The evidence would be that she DID close the portal...the rest is less evidence than logic, that if she could close it, she should have been able to open it.
But, since there is more than one weird hole in S5's ending...it could be nearly impossible to ever get an answer. Even asking Joss could be iffy. I bet it's hard, even with writers like Mutant Enemy had where everyone is really good, to "get" what's in everyone's head at one time. There may be 5 versions of what THEY think happened.
See, this all works except the question of how did Buffy get any of the Key energy in her, and the moment when Dawn is bleeding and Buffy touches her just really doesn't feel right, its not long enough.
People seem to be confusing 'Summers Blood' with the Key energy. This isn't the case, Dawn was the Key, the energy was all through her body BUT was drained when her blood drained.
Even though it is the same blood type Buffy has, it still isn't the same blood.
Dlou444
03-16-2008, 03:12 PM
See, this all works except the question of how did Buffy get any of the Key energy in her, and the moment when Dawn is bleeding and Buffy touches her just really doesn't feel right, its not long enough.
People seem to be confusing 'Summers Blood' with the Key energy. This isn't the case, Dawn was the Key, the energy was all through her body BUT was drained when her blood drained.
Even though it is the same blood type Buffy has, it still isn't the same blood.
No, I get that and there just isn't going to be any way to get around that. They SEEM to try to say that they DO have the same blood. Hence, why she could close the portal. How the "key energy" gets into her I don't know. The show might make more sense with the Bunny involved, actually.
Now, the "old slayer" seemed to know beforehand. She said her gift was death. She may be who we have to go to in order to understand this.
I don't think people are necessarily confusing "Summer's Blood" and "Key energy" as much as that is what the connection the SHOW basically DEMANDED that we make. They basically said, "This is how we're wrapping this up so you people have to wrap your heads around it somehow." And that is how they explained it Summer's blood = they're the same in every way.
Of course, it IS possible to wrap your head around if you think of it as more of a "ritual" than science. Something more like in "Harm's Way" on Angel when Harmony kills the vampire secretary and it saves the day because the demon people wanted a sacrifice, ANY sacrifice. Only, this one would go more through the "Summer's Blood" than anyone. Dawn had the power to open it, but Buffy (being her only living sibling and having the same blood) was able to make the mean portal happy by HER energy stopping and not Dawn's.
Which would make the Monk's decision be a darn good one too. Send the key to the Slayer, she defends it WITH her life, then the key is safe AND if the Slayer dies, another gets called and everything is right with the world. (Good thing they didn't know about Faith, huh?)
xgirlanachronism245x
03-16-2008, 06:02 PM
Honestly, I don't think it was so much as "Summer's Blood" or even "Key Energy" persay, as it was from the same blood line. I assumed that the portal recognized the fact that Buffy and Dawn shared a common blood line, so it satisfied the portal.
It was said that the monks made Dawn from a part of Buffy, so the conclusion can be drawn that both Dawn and Buffy have a connection. I think we are assuming (since Buffy assumed the connection was indeed Summer's blood) that the connection was in fact blood.
How do we know it wasn't the essence of the key? Or something else entirely?
But that wouldn't make sense because DAWN was the key. Not Buffy.
Perhaps I'm not making sense.
Posing another question:
If Joyce were still alive when this was taking place, would her sacrificing herself have closed the portal? Since the link between Buffy's blood and Dawn's would be Joyce. (Assuming the connection is blood.)
Or hell, out on a limb here, would Angel's death have closed it? Since he ingested a lot of Buffy's blood. (Which would be Dawn's blood, again if we are assuming correctly.)
As for the saying "death is your gift", there is yet another theory in my brain.
Perhaps the portal didn't need blood at all. Perhaps we are going off of what Giles said, which could have been wrong. Perhaps the portal needed a life, not blood (which the bleeding out of Dawn would have killed her, so there would have been a life taken there), so any life in relation to the key could have closed the portal.
Ah, I'm not making sense at all am I?
Again, Connor/Cordy/Jasmine is different.
Jasmine was born and her 'parents' are Connor and Cordy.
It was this blood connection that could reveal who Jasmine was. This isn't the same as Dawn at all.
Buffy was correct that Dawn was created from her blood, it was genetic material.
Without getting too pendantic my point is that there is a familial connection as well as a mystical one. That's the similarity.
xgirlanachronism245x
03-16-2008, 08:51 PM
Aussie agrees: but what about if the key was something other then human?
Well, then Buffy couldn't have closed it. Haha.
I suppose then if the key was made into something other than human, such as the Energizer Bunny, then only the Energizer Bunny could close it. Since there are no factors realting the Energizer Bunny to any other object, there is no probability that anything else can close it because there are no connections between the Bunny and anything else. A little redundant, but I think it gets the point across.
The only way something other than the Bunny could close it is if the monks took a part of something else to make the Bunny with. In that case, that object(whatever it may be) could in fact close the portal.
Make sense?
Dlou444
03-16-2008, 10:34 PM
What about the Duracell Ferret?
NightBird
03-18-2008, 08:11 AM
Well the thing that always gets me is, how is this portal supposed to know when the blood stops flowing, its a hole, its not sentient or at least i dont think it is.
I didn't think that meant dawn had to die, just stop her bleeding into the damm thing, and then buffy goes all martyr on us and the portal closes, i dont think it will ever make sense, but then thats no reason to stop looking for answers.
I always saw the portal as sort of like a car, when it stops getting fuel it stops, so i just though that once dawn stopped bleeding into the portal it would stop, but this wasn't so.
I think my car/fuel theory would have made more sense, its much less dramatic but makes more sense, darn logic, I WANT DRAMATIC LOGIC!
Blondie Bear
03-18-2008, 08:28 AM
It's true that the only part of Giles' speech that he got from the books was "The blood flows, the gates will open. The gates will close when it flows no more." He only ASSUMED that meant Dawn had to be dead. Good catch, Nightbird.
NightBird
03-18-2008, 08:49 AM
Thanks BB, i feel bad for making giles look bad. lol
caitaintdead
03-18-2008, 08:40 PM
Every time I've watched this episode I can't help but think "what if Buffy was wrong?" She would have given her speech to Dawn, jupmed, died, and then the world would have continued to fall apart and she wouldn't have been there to protect Dawn anyway! So it's a good thing that Buffy must have been given a copy of the script, because otherwise it could have been a very disastorous series finale. I guess with lots of movies and TV shows though, if you enjoy something enough, you just have to sit back and enjoy the ride sometimes when the plot holes start to appear. (But at the same time, it's a lot of fun debating it)
Jaded Wolf
03-27-2008, 09:25 AM
Allow me to take a stab at this. I just watched the season 5 finale last night. I think Buffy's flashbacks pretty much explained it. Blood is life as Spike said. Dawn came from Buffy. Dawn and Buffy's blood was the same therefore Buffy was able to substitute herself in place of Dawn to close the portal. Dawn was needed to open it but not to close it. The scrolls which detailed the key and the gate had no way of knowing the monks would make the key human form. If the key had remained energy then the key would be required to close it. However, since the key was made human from another human, then all it needed was the same blood type to close it. That is pretty much my hypothesis on this one.
Buffanator
05-27-2008, 09:02 AM
And I just thought of another one: Buffy didn't bleed.
Eh, by that time I usually just think Buffy should chunk Dawn into the portal and have done with it.
Ack. Wicked, hateful me. I, too, wish that Dawn had just jumped into the portal. Because (a) it would have spared us the Dawn-crap from S-6 & 7 (I hate whiney-baby Dawn) and (2) it would have been a great story arc that "Buffy just couldn't save her mother OR Dawn" - not to mention that the 1st slayer told Buffy "death is your gift" ... it didn't necessarily mean that Buffy was the one to GIVE the gift... it could have been that Dawn's death was a gift TO Buffy.
But that ain't the way it played out now, is it luv? :: vampire
Lindsey McDonald
06-01-2008, 01:42 PM
See, the way I see it is that people are placing too much significance on the Key. I think that the all of the Key's mystical energy was used in actually opening the portal, hence why only a drop of blood was needed, and why it could never be used again. It makes more sense to think that the Key's energy is used up in that instant, because no-one ever tries to use Dawn again to casue hell on Earth. If the Key's energy could be used to close the portal, there would be some left over in Dawn, and we never get any indication that this is the case. So basically, as soon as the portal starts to open, Dawn is no longer the Key.
Now, the whole opening of the portal is very ritualistic. This suggests a certain ritual element to the closing. As we know, in the Buffyverse, conditions of rituals and prophesy and the like are often misleading. What I am suggesting is this:
Dawn in human form is no longer the Key.
Dawn was created by the monks from Buffy's blood. This is important, as she was not born. It has been stated she was created from Buffy, not Hank and Joyce (perhaps a reason why Joce knew she was not her mother whereas Buffy never truthfully doubted their connection.
The ritual states that "The gates will close when it flows no more." Literally, this is problematic, but when taken as flowery language, it could simply mean death.
Now, take all these elements and you have two girls with the same blood (mystically, at least, which I feel would be more influential than genetically), with a ritual that states that a sacrificial death of the person with said blood will close the portal. Joyce could never have closed it, nor Hank, and Buffy could never have opened it - she lacked the initial Key energy. Here is where people are thinking too much of a literal unlock/lock key, rather than a figurative unlock only Key. I think the second part of the ritual relies purely on the vessel, not the Key itself. After all, if the Key was in its pure, unadulterated green smooshey state, once opened I don't see how the portal could be closed. Therefore, the monks chose a human vessel to give precisely that last ditch option.
I personally think it all slots into place nicely, although Buffy did jump to certain conclusions. She does seem to do that a lot though! The Summers' Blood line does confuse things a little, but that was a part of Buffy's pep talk to Dawn to make her feel loved, so it cant be heavily relied upon. However, I do realise that this is all based upon the one assumption that the Key energy is expended at the opening of the portal, but I feel there is evidence enough to support it.
Buffanator
06-02-2008, 02:22 PM
The ritual states that "The gates will close when it flows no more." Literally, this is problematic, but when taken as flowery language, it could simply mean death.
Agreed. It seems that some people are not grasping that you don't have to "bleed out" for the blood to "stop flowing". When you die, the blood *stops flowing.*
But isn't it interesting that Buffy didn't appear to have a scratch on her physically when she was dead on the ground. : erm : Yeah, guess that's a whole'nuther thread. :lol:
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