Teach TC Irish! -- The Thread

[The Chosen]

Okay, I've found the desire to learn the language of the Paddy's. It just seems like a good thing to learn. I mean, I'm Irish and Ireland's always been a place I wanna go. (I know that Irish isn't a thing you HAVE to know to go to Ireland, but it's interesting to me all the same.)

I already know... (and correct me if I'm wrong)

Kiniption (panic attack or a tantrum.)
Eejit (idiot.)
Muintuir (teacher or tutor.)

As Keanoite had said in a PM she sent me a few minutes ago, the best place to start is hellos/goodbyes. I'd really appreciate the knowledgeness! :D

[Lyri]

Are eejit and kiniption actually Irish words? Because I use those words, and I'm not Irish. I always thought they were slang words...maybe I'm wrong, though. :D

[Cangel]

How do you pronounce these words you've just named? I would loooove tolearn the basics of another language :)

[Keanoite]

LOMA!!! I can't believe you actually started a thread! ok fist off...kiniption is Irish slang as is the other word that rhymes with howl...they are not Gaelige (gael-i-ga)

So to start off

HEllo= Dia dhuit...(Dee-ah gwit) it lietrally means God be with you but its used as hello.

EDIT

Eejit is Irish slang, it's not actually an Irish language word if you know what I mean?

[Lyri]

Eejit is pretty much pronounced how it's spelt...E-JIT. Long 'E', short 'JIT'.

Kiniption is Kin-IP-Shun. At least that's how I say them. Lol.

[Keanoite]

How do you pronounce these words you've just named? I would loooove tolearn the basics of another language :)

well they basically sound like they look

eejit...ee + jit

kiniption...kin+ ip + shone

Muintuir...Moon + tore

[Blondie Bear]

I always thought "eejit" was a funny mispronunciation of "idiot." And I've seen "conniption"--is that the same thing?

I read lots of elf-Fantasy so I know words like Sidhe and Tuatha!

[Keanoite]

I always thought "eejit" was a funny mispronunciation of "idiot." And I've seen "conniption"--is that the same thing?

I read lots of elf-Fantasy so I know words like Sidhe and Tuatha!


Well eejit and idiot mean the smae thing? I'm not sure if it's origins

Tuatha...Two=ah is a tribe or small community of people....dates back to Irelands pre-Christianity times

Sidhe...She;)

[Blondie Bear]

I always want to say Seed-hey cause calling them "shee" just sounds stupid to me.

[Keanoite]

Thats one of the hardest things about learning Irish having being brought up speaking English, all your normal inclinations are pretty much thrown out cuz what applies in English is usually the opposite in Irish.

It's how ost of Irelands place names came about. The English came in and couldn't make head no tail of the Irish language and just Anglized everything.

Like Dublin would have been known as Dubh Linn ( Dove Lynn) the bh makes a v sound. Of course this was gibberish to the English so they just did away with the H and one of the n's.

[The Chosen]

So "Meabh" would be pronounced "Mave"? I know we went through this before but I just wanna make sure lol. Surprisingly, I can easily memorize these words...I guess it's true that I only learn if its about something I'm interested in. (I've been told that before.)

So what does "sidhe" mean? And did I misread or is it pronounced as "she"?

[Keanoite]

So "Meabh" would be pronounced "Mave"? I know we went through this before but I just wanna make sure lol. Surprisingly, I can easily memorize these words...I guess it's true that I only learn if its about something I'm interested in. (I've been told that before.)

So what does "sidhe" mean? And did I misread or is it pronounced as "she"?

yeah exactly, mave like wave but with an M...

and yes Sidhe is pronounced 'she'...as in Bean Sidhe (Banshee)

The Sidhe are hugely involved in Irish mythology, they were fairy people, usually peaeful unless you pissed em off:D

[Lyri]

I think Sidhe were mention in one of the Anita Blake books...but as I didn't know how it was pronounced, I was reading Seed-he! lmao

[The Chosen]

I see... (P.S. -- let's incorporate them into Meabh's tale. :D The Sidhe's I mean. And this message goes to Kean.)

Anywho, I now know "Hello" which I need to memorize. Maybe some basic grammar should come next? How the Irish put words together...like is it different than an English sentence? And now I have to get rid of "eejit" and "kiniption"... LOL! My brain's malfunctioning... Well, not really. I find this a lotta fun, actually.

[Cangel]

Okay, I'm having pronounciation trouble :( I wasn't raised with English, hell, I'm not even all that good at English so I think I keep mixing eveything up.
does anybody know a site where they explain everything pronounciationy like with the signs they use in dictionaries?

[Keanoite]

You had to go and ask for the hard stuff didn't ya!

Ok so this is why Irish is INCREDIBLY difficult to learn...the grammar is hurrendous

If I want to say I am happy I would say...Tá áthas orm...translated meaning happiness is on me

give me a really really easy sentence simila to that and I'll try to brake it down for you

oh and SS I don't know of a site but I'll see what I can come up with

[The Chosen]

Okay, how about "I'm not feeling well."

[Lyri]

LMAO! You wanna know how people in Northern Ireland talk? We put our words together in sentences like Yoda from Star Wars. We tend to put the words that should be at the beginningof sentences at the end, for example.

"He didn't mean to say that, but!"

:lmao:

[Keanoite]

Okay, how about "I'm not feeling well."

ok I had to change it a wee bit

Tá pian i mo bholg...there is a pain in my stomach..

that was too straightforward...I think I'm going to have to have a brainstorm about the best way to put this across...

[The Chosen]

Yes, put on your thinking cap, please! I wanna learn the language of the Paddy's!

[Lyri]

Keanoite agrees: or my personal favourite...He's out, so he is...love it when I aunt says that!

OMG! YES! That is exactly how I talk! Or something like:

"That's not right, sure it isn't?"

[Rowan Hawthorn]

Thats one of the hardest things about learning Irish having being brought up speaking English, all your normal inclinations are pretty much thrown out cuz what applies in English is usually the opposite in Irish.

It's how ost of Irelands place names came about. The English came in and couldn't make head no tail of the Irish language and just Anglized everything.
Heh. Have you seen the Welsh?

Like Dublin would have been known as Dubh Linn

Black what?

[Keanoite]

OMG! YES! That is exactly how I talk! Or something like:

"That's not right, sure it isn't?"

LOL...I love it! when I was younger I used to get my aunt to just say random sentences for me...so I did...lol

[UlaGan]

Cool! I'd love to learn Irsh Gaelic too!
I've even got the English-Gaelic, Gaelic -English dictionary, I wish I'd found good grammar book somewhere.

Too bad I can't afford yet travel to Ireland

[The Chosen]

that was too straightforward...I think I'm going to have to have a brainstorm about the best way to put this across...

How's the brain-stormation goin', K? C'mon, bud, I wanna be Irish-Guy! :lmao: