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Bangelxx
04-11-2008, 03:47 PM
I've heard some discussion about this but what did you think about dawn having the last line in the show? Did you like it?dislike it?not care about it?
Well, I thought that Dawn didn't deserve to have the last line. she just joined in season 5 and I dunno, I think Buffy or Willow or Xander should have had the last line because they'd been doing the slayage thing since the beginning. Those are just my thoughts
Keanoite
04-11-2008, 04:13 PM
To be honest I don't think it matters because while she said the last line on the show the last thing we saw was Buffy and that smile, so to me THAT was the final word from the show not Dawn.
Cangel
04-11-2008, 04:16 PM
I never really thought it was important who got the last line...technically, it's not even the last line, we still have the s8 comics ;)
And well, she might've gotten the last line, but while speaking she wasn't even shown, we had the camera zooming to Buffy, so it's not that big of a victory. Other than that I think the line was most suitable for her. Willow and Faith already said something on the topic, and well, I can't really see any of the guys asking Buffy what to do now.
I actually liked that Dawn had the last word...to me, it symbolised the fact the fact that things weren't the same as they had once been. The Potentials are all Slayers now, and to me, Dawn having the last line cemented that. It was like Buffy was passing the torch to the next generation. Even though Dawn wasn't a Slayer, she is Buffy's future, so that's what I took from it.
But the fact that it was Buffy's face, and that smile, was the last shot is really all that mattered. THAT was the whole point.
PLUS! Buffy's last word on the show was SPIKE! So that gave me a big happy! :lmao:
LittleMissLikesToFight
04-11-2008, 05:42 PM
I never liked, but i guess ive gotten over it. But i do remember when i first saw it, everyone the next day in school was definitely bitchin' about it.
Crazy Flakes
04-11-2008, 05:55 PM
When I first saw it, I thought, What's the deal with Dawn having the last line?! Now, I don't really care, since, even though Buffy didn't say anything, she sort of had the last line. I have to admit, though, I would've liked to see Willow having the last word, but that's just because I have favorite character bias.
Just be thankful the last line wasn't said by one of the Potentials.
Joyce Summers
04-11-2008, 06:17 PM
Given what the last line actually was, I can't see anyone BUT Dawn saying it. She was someone who had never been afraid to ask Buffy for guidance while everyone else had always been 'I can do this myself thank you very much', but with everything that had changed everyone was gonna need to turn to Buffy for direction and Dawn voiced that.
And it fit that as Dawn said the line the shot was on Buffy. It was like the end of the show was fixed on just the Summers Girls...which I liked. Being a Dawn fan may make me biased here, haha
Hello Cutie
04-11-2008, 07:23 PM
It never bothered me who had the last line, but, in a real terms view, you'd expect the youngest person to be the last one to speak- it's a kinda 'oh, what are we going to do??' thing, where a teenager seems to need to know whats going on- especially Dawn who needs stability in her life- or maybe I'm drunk and reading too much into it.
Plus, while Dawn had the last spoken line, I feel as though Buffy had the last line- her final expression after Dawn said her line, spoke volumes more than anything she could have vocally said, so I feel as though Buffy did have the last line after all- even though it wasn't vocalised, you could see what she was saying through her eyes and face.
Senior Watcher
04-11-2008, 09:05 PM
It never bothered me who had the last line, but, in a real terms view, you'd expect the youngest person to be the last one to speak- it's a kinda 'oh, what are we going to do??' thing, where a teenager seems to need to know whats going on- especially Dawn who needs stability in her life- or maybe I'm drunk and reading too much into it.
Plus, while Dawn had the last spoken line, I feel as though Buffy had the last line- her final expression after Dawn said her line, spoke volumes more than anything she could have vocally said, so I feel as though Buffy did have the last line after all- even though it wasn't vocalised, you could see what she was saying through her eyes and face.
yep. thats pretty much everything i was gonna say.
Edmund Blackadder
04-12-2008, 06:13 AM
yep. thats pretty much everything i was gonna say.
And she said it while drunk??!
I think I want her on my side in any furture debates I have - lol.
Buffy obsessed fan
04-12-2008, 07:17 AM
I really don't think it mattered who got the last line, 'cause the ending wasn't about the speech, it was kinda about how Buffy reacted, so last line, pretty irrelevant, in my opinion.
x Queen cordy x
04-12-2008, 09:12 AM
i always thought buffy should have had the last line just to make it that little bit more perfect but it never really bothered me
DarklyDreamingDrusilla
04-12-2008, 10:42 AM
Personally, I thought that Drusilla should have popped out of no where behind Buffy to say the last word...Okay not really, but seriously I think that Dawn saying the last word was fitting as everyone said before. I think it set the tone for the idea of all the new changes that were going to take place but you see in Buffy's face that she was going to stick around!
TheHeartist
04-12-2008, 02:17 PM
Personally, I thought that Drusilla should have popped out of no where behind Buffy to say the last word...
And exploded into flames...nice ;)
girlunstrung
04-13-2008, 12:23 PM
Eh, it's always bugged me a bit, but... I agree with everything everyone's said, really. Buffy's smile spoke volumes more than anything she could have possibly said. It was a nice sentiment to actually see Buffy -truly- smile.
Crazy Flakes
04-13-2008, 12:28 PM
Personally, I thought that Drusilla should have popped out of no where behind Buffy to say the last word..
Drusilla should just pop up and dance around (with an umbrella, of course.) And she should bring Sunshine, 'cause we never really found out what happened to that pup.
VisionGuy
04-13-2008, 12:32 PM
It didn't really matter to me that Dawn had the last line.
TabulaRasa
04-13-2008, 09:42 PM
To be honest, never even thought about it. And I didn't think about it because it didn't matter. I guess if it would have bothered me I would have made this thread. I dunno...Buffy got the last view so that was good enough for me. You know, now that I thought about it.
caitaintdead
04-13-2008, 10:21 PM
I guess at first I was a bit disappointed that Dawn (who at the time I still did NOT like!) had the last line. But I do agree that Buffy's facial expression said more then words (even brilliantly sculptured Joss words) could ever say!
Xin Rong
04-16-2008, 06:19 PM
Was not happy, I expected a cheesy line from buffy as would be fitting for the show
Spuffy is true love
04-17-2008, 04:52 PM
I HATED THE FACT DAWN HAD THE LAST LINE!!!!!! I'm not exactly the biggest fan of Dawn, in fact I really didn't like her at all. I thought the line was great "So what are we going to do now" I think it would have been awesome if that line was said by Giles. B/c to my understanding in the season 8 comics he and buffy attempt to rebuild the watchers council (haven't read the comics this is just what I know from season 5 of angel, anyone know where I can get the comics?) and so I think this would have shown that Giles reinstated himself as watcher, and shows that he wants to continue. It would have been a great cliff hanger of an ending and prolly pissed a lot of people off but I think that would have been much better than Dawn saying it.
SlayerGirl01
05-04-2008, 02:12 AM
i dont think it matters.
the final part was seeing the camera zoom in on buffy so that was the final say, my opinion anyway.
scarybunny97
05-04-2008, 10:45 AM
If the shot had been ON DAWN when she said the line, then yes I'd be irked--but as others here have said the final "word" of the series really was the look on Buffy's face as the camera pushed in. And creatively speaking I think it was wise not to end the show on a line of dialog. Because there is no string of words that could really do it y'know? Anything Buffy could have actually said would have fallen far short of what the series had meant to us all for seven years. So best not try, and just go out on Buffy thinking about Dawn's question. Seven seasons of quips and monster-slaying ending on a thought. Personally, I dug it.
cultcross
05-04-2008, 05:28 PM
Bugged me a bit at the time - I'd rather one of the core four got the final word, but that's not rally my biggest niggling dislike in the final arc, so I'll happily let it go. At least Dawn didn't get the final shot too.
Crazy Flakes
05-04-2008, 07:14 PM
I was half-expecting the final shot to be the camera pushing in on an angry-looking Principal Wood. Like half the other closing shots in season 7.
But now that I think about it, there was no need to have one of the Core Four say the final line. The meeting they had before the final fight really showed their significance more than the last line could have.
white avenger
05-05-2008, 03:38 AM
To me, Buffy's smile was the real last line. It could have either been taken as, "We did it. HOT DAMN, WE DID IT!!!" or "You can rest now, Spike. You saved us all," or as one of my Bangel friends said once, "Now that this is all over, I'm gonna get Willow to cast a spell so I can go jump Angel's bones forever after." It could literally mean something different for whoever saw it. As it turned out, I now see it as a "You only think it's over. You ain't seen NOTHING yet." sort of smile.
The Kinslayer
05-09-2008, 11:11 AM
I found out who would say the last word before I saw it, and even if I was surprised my thought were more like "Oh, so at least sheīs not going to die. Then I saw the episode it didnīt bother me at all and as most already said, itīs Buffys smile that is the last word. If we didnīt know it before, at least "Hush" taught us you donīt need words to speak.
Natasha1988
05-09-2008, 05:52 PM
I Dont Think It Would Have Bothered Me If I Didnt Hate Dawn So Much Lol x
kiben
05-18-2008, 08:28 PM
Darla had the first line of the series so maybe Darla should have popped up lol I feel the same way as a few others, I was just happy to have the camera focus in on Buffy's face and smile as the last image of the series.
Vicariously
05-19-2008, 09:50 AM
beautiful thats all I can say about the ending of my favorite show beautiful!!!!! My only true complaint was that it was over! *tear*
Anya should have the last lines.
Anya: *pop on their back* *insert a funny lines here* LoL
angelchick182
05-23-2008, 11:15 PM
Bugged me at first, but I was over it pretty quickly. Besides, as many have already said, Buffy's smile spoke louder and, I think, was better than anything that anyone could've said.
Lindsey McDonald
06-02-2008, 05:17 PM
I didn't mind at all, although I think it would have been cool if they had moved the core four's convo to the end and had Giles say "The Earth is doomed". I do love paternal Giles... Although I think a lot of people would have hated that. I liked the smile though, and I never disliked Dawn, plus at that point I'm still all emotional about Anya so I probably would have accepted Drusilla dancing with an umbrella shouting "Lasagne!"
Superstar
06-02-2008, 06:33 PM
Actually, I think an absolute golden opportunity was lost in not mirroring the first line of the series spoken by a cast member.
First line (Darla): "Are you sure this is a good idea"
Suggested last line: "Are you sure this was a good idea?"
And then... have Buffy's smile.
Don't really care who would have spoken it. Dawn works as well as anyone.
The whole "The earth is definitely doomed" line comes close but is too early.
The subtext in that line has multiple meanings.
Including... was ending the tv series a good idea?
Just my take on things.
Atren
06-03-2008, 02:02 PM
Personally i do not find anything wierd in Dawn saying final word. I do not see why it is important who does say it. For all i care it could be the first :)
perrycareyrocks
06-03-2008, 05:18 PM
I think that Buffy probably had the last line, and Willow was the only person to hear it.
I do like that it was Dawn, Buffy couldn't have said something good enough to end the show.
Dawn was perfect.
Buffanator
06-04-2008, 08:36 AM
Honestly... I never thought about it til now.
But as others as lamented, it was Buffy's *expression* that was the most important thing. That was the last *line* in my book.
Lauryn Summers
06-07-2008, 11:46 AM
Had Buffy been slated with the last line, it puts tremendous pressure on her to deliver it correctly. Not even that, but the line would have to be exactly right or spurn a conversation like this! I'm fine with Dawn having the last line because think about it...if Willow or Xander had said it, it would have made their characters kind of unfulfilled...I don't know how else to say it. Like they were looking for more or not satisfied. But they've been through everything pretty much with Buffy. With Dawn delivering the line, it was ok because she hadn't "seen" what the others have so naturally she would wonder what they were going to do now.
Buffy's expression at the end was really the "last line" for me and SMG did it perfectly.
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