View Full Version : When is Buffy's B-Day?
The Ferg
04-29-2008, 07:29 AM
Well, the only thing I know is that it's after Christmas, and before Valentine's.
Cangel
04-29-2008, 07:40 AM
It's somewhere late in January for sure. I think to recall it was January 18 are 19
Joyce Summers
04-29-2008, 08:12 AM
Well in Doomed Buffy states she's a Capricorn born on the Cusp of Aquarius which means she can only be born one particular day: January 19th.
The Ferg
04-29-2008, 03:50 PM
Oh, I completely forgot about the Capricorn and Aquarius thing... Hmm... Well, thanks for clearing things up. :)
Rowan Hawthorn
04-29-2008, 07:22 PM
Well in Doomed Buffy states she's a Capricorn born on the Cusp of Aquarius which means she can only be born one particular day: January 19th.
That date is also supported by "Surprise", which actually aired on January 19, on Buffy's 16th birthday. Generally speaking, the show aired in "Real Time", meaning that the days and dates it aired on were usually the same as the in-show day and date (most of the exceptions occurred, I believe, where an episode spans more than one day.) But that's not a precisely accurate guide: For example, "Family", which centered on Tara's birthday, aired on November 7, 2000, and "Seeing Red" aired on May 7, 2002. Then, in "Help", we see Tara's gravestone with the dates November 16, 1980 - May 7, 2002. So there's a little "drift" between the air date of "Family" and her stated birth date.
By the way, speaking of "drift", the cusp drifts, also; because of the sun's/earth's/universe's movements, there is no one particular day for any given cusp, but rather a range of days where the cusp may appear in any given year - the same way that the solstices and equinoxes do not really occur on the same days every year. That Cusp of Aquarius could fall anywhere from about the 19th to the 23rd of January (and in fact, one reference I found shows the Cusp of Aquarius for 1980 on Jan 20 at 21:49. I'd almost guarantee it would be possible to find others saying something else.)
Joyce Summers
04-29-2008, 07:26 PM
That Cusp of Aquarius could fall anywhere from about the 19th to the 23rd of January (and in fact, one reference I found shows the Cusp of Aquarius for 1980 on Jan 20 at 21:49. I'd almost guarantee it would be possible to find others saying something else.)
Yep it does change from year to year. But Buffy was born in 1981, not 1980, and that year the cusp was 19th January I believe thus fitting it in with the birth of the Buff.
But I do agree the writers sometimes wavered with what they had previously stated as realtime dates. Then again, it is a show and not reality, hehe.
Oh and Surprise/Innocence was Buffy's 17th birthday, not her 16th ;)
Rowan Hawthorn
04-29-2008, 08:08 PM
Yep it does change from year to year. But Buffy was born in 1981, not 1980, and that year the cusp was 19th January I believe thus fitting it in with the birth of the Buff.
But I do agree the writers sometimes wavered with what they had previously stated as realtime dates. Then again, it is a show and not reality, hehe.
WHAT!?! NOOOOOOOOO!!! :lmao:
Oh and Surprise/Innocence was Buffy's 17th birthday, not her 16th ;)
Right on all counts. So much for my frickin' memory. Back to the DVDs...
Joyce Summers
04-30-2008, 01:42 AM
WHAT!?! NOOOOOOOOO!!!
::Pats Rowan sympathetically:: The bubble has to be burst eventually. It happens to the best of us. Haha
Of course you can also just recreate the bubble.....
eunsoma
04-30-2008, 01:53 AM
wow u guys kno ur stuff ...
Joyce Summers
04-30-2008, 02:05 AM
Is that a nice way of saying we're obsessive? Haha
Yes, all that and Joss finally declared that her birthday was on the 19th of January 1981, push aside that her birthday has been shown to be 6 May 1979 and 24 October 1980 which are obviously wrong.
Cangel
04-30-2008, 10:33 AM
While we're on it, when are the other characters' birthdays? I vaguely know where to place Cordy's birthday, thx to Rowan Hawthorn I know Tara's birthday, but...uhm...that's it. (Except maybe Anya's...does July 4th count, lol)
Joyce Summers
04-30-2008, 10:43 AM
Well I think Dawn's is August because her age stays the same aaaaaall season and then at the very beginning of the next season she's gone up a year suddenly. So I presume August. I don't think we ever actually know the birthdays of a lot of Scoobies...
Rowan Hawthorn
04-30-2008, 12:04 PM
No; for instance, the only thing we really know about Willow's is when it isn't (during "Doublemeat Palace", Amy tells Willow "It's your birthday" just before dosing her with a spell, and Willow says, "No, it isn't.") The general assumption most people make is that hers and Xander's both fall in the summer months. Dawn's is usually assumed to be just prior to the time of "Buffy vs Dracula" (in fact, it can be calculated fairly closely; I can't look up the episode right now to get the exact line, but at one point Dawn asks Buffy how old she is really, and Buffy tells her XXX weeks.)
Spikes FFL
04-30-2008, 02:53 PM
Wow... I forgot how much talk surrounded the whole birthday thing.
One thing I did notice recently about Buffy's birdthday is that it seems to celebrate the "anniversary" of the pilot episode airing back in 1997. Which is why it probably ended up being in January, even though in the episode "I Robot, You Jane" it lists a date in October.
The episode that Dawn and Buffy talk about Dawn's age is "Blood Ties"...
DAWN: How old am I now?
JOYCE: You're fourteen, sweetheart, you know that.
DAWN: No. The monks. When did ... when did they ... (trails off)
BUFFY: Six months ago.
DAWN: I've only been alive for six months, huh?
Which places her birthday at...Early to mid September. Because Buffy vs Dracula aired September 26, 2000, and Blood Ties aired Feb 6, 2001... which is not exactly 6 months... but Buffy could have been estimating... Would that mean her birthday is anywhere between September 6th and the 26th
I don't know... any opinions? :)
Rowan Hawthorn
04-30-2008, 07:09 PM
Well, six months from February would be August; since we never see Dawn's birthday celebrated, either, it's a reasonable assumption that it falls sometime prior to the season opener, but somewhere in that August - early September range is probably about as close as we'll ever get unless Joss decides to either mention it during a new story or release the show's "bible". Which I'd give at least one of my eye-teeth for...
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