Does Fred have a crush on Willow? (Orpheus)

[The Ferg]

It just seems like she acts all timid around her and at the end Willow is like, "I'm seeing someone."

[Lyri]

I don't think it's a crush, more a 'Oh, look! She's just as smart as me! I have someone to relate to!'

Fred had to dumb everything down around the LA Gang, with Willow she didn't have to do that, and I think her geek/nerdy-ness took over for a while.

[Cangel]

Yeah, Willow was the crushy one. Fred was just being herself and so happy she could relate to someone, and by her reaction to Willow's "I'm seeing someone" I think it was pretty obvious she didn't even realize she was sending out any vibes to Willow (which, in her book, she probably wasn't, it was just Willow's judgement).

[Natasha1988]

Poor Fred She Found Another Nerd And Willow Thought She Was Hitting On Her lol
:)

[SintiKid]

Yes Fred does indeed have a crush on Willow, you can try to deny it, but it doesn't change a thing.

[InsaneMystic]

Hello, Frillow shipper here! You won't find me answering "No" to that question even if you threaten to throw things at me. Wouldn't want to give up THE H-O-T-T-E-S-T "might have been" shipping fantasy a nerd-ophiliac like me could think of in the entire Buffyverse. And yes, that's bar none. :drool2:

If they just had had more time than one ep (and Willow could have gotten over the "erm, no"-ness that was Kennedy)... aah, I would have paid through the nose to see that.

[Superstar]

And wouldn't that have driven poor Wes right 'round the bend.
Enough to make the poor guy turn to men.

Then again, Alexis having his real life wife and on-screen girlfriend make time together might have been "interesting" for him.

[Five]

I just watched this episode for the very first time. Aaah I'm so happy, I've seen my Wiwi again ! (Yes I do know that nickname is more that ridiculous.). Ahem, anyway.

STUPID WIWI !!! Why wouldn't you just let go of stupid Kennedy and gay Fred up ?! It was the PERFECT occasion !!

I don't think Fred was attracted to Willow, or at least, I don't think she realised it. You can totally tell by her look when Willow tells her "I'm seeing a stupid selfish brat" (or something like that)... But Willow totally has a crush on Fred, with the complimenting, the chin-touching, the Wesley-questionning... (while not telling him she's now gay... (though maybe Cordy told him)) !! And at the end you can see how she decides "No, I can't let myself fall for Fred or even consider it, I gotta kill this in the egg, I'm gonna tell her I'm seeing a useless immature bitca"... But otherwise she totally wanted Fred.

AND I TOTALLY WANTED THEM TOGETHER ! I think Frillow is like such a better couple that irrealistic Wennedy or whatever you kids call it. ^^'

I mean, they totally match.

Though I really don't believe Fred was attracted to Willow - but she could have been. Sides, she was in a disappointed-in-men phasis... Arf... Well... Maybe she'll come back (I know she won't =( ) in S8 and hook up with Willow after Kennedy has died of stupidity.

Edit: Hey since I still got the DVD running in my DVD player, I'm running the commentary right now. Director Terrence O'Hara and co-producer Jeffrey Bell. They're saying they did decide that Willow's got a crush on Fred !! Without Wesley knowing, or at least at first... Hehe.

[Kemy]

I'd like to think so, mainly because it would have been so much cuter for Willow to end up with Fred and not bloody Kennedy. Then again knowing what happens to Fred...well I'm torn on the issue.

But it was probably her having a brainy friend to talk to which is something she was going to be very happy about. Whether it was a crush as well I don't know.

[The Kinslayer]

Then again knowing what happens to Fred...well I'm torn on the issue.
What would have been interesting. Willow and Fred dating and Fred dying. How would Willow react? Gone dark again and starting to fight Illyria? Someone please point me in the direction at available fanfic about this. :) Yes, I´m too lazy to go look for it myself.

[white avenger]

I think that there was a mutual attraction between the two, but it was more intellectual than sexual, if that makes a whole lot of sense. On the other hand, it wouldn't take a great stretch of the imagination to see Fred performing the same "experiment" with Willow that Buffy did with Satsu.

[Kemy]

@Kinslayer: Direction what now?

[Five]

Five by Five > Oh I'm sorry, I guess this expression "kill in the egg" doesn't really exist in English ! I have this tendency to translate the French expressions... "Tuer dans l'oeuf" is so cute actually. Erm. Yet I had noticed lots and lots of times it translated as "nip in the bud". I'm sorry. Sometimes I really think I should shut the heck up and get better at English language before posting in English-speaking boards and not getting understood.

As to the possible attraction, I think Fred really is warm with everyone (see how she greeted Faith...), without really thinking how it can be interpreted. Would have loved Frillow though.

[Ripper 08]

does fred have a crush on willow erm let me think??? ok let me think i'll leave it as simple as i can.... is the grass green?



dark willow vs illyria wowzers!!! how cool would that have been and as for frillow thats another moment in the seires that we were dennied we should have got to see them happen as it would have been so cool especially with the prospect of dark willow vs illyria at the end lol.

[OldSwede]

Is there ANY combination of two people in Buffy and Angel where there is not at some point at least a slight indication that they are attracted to each other, regardless of sex? At least if the two people are alive at the same time - No, wait, that's not really a problem either.
The constant hinting of attraction and crushes is part of the fun...

[Angel's Avenger]

I'm a Fred/Willow shipper! Well, up until recently. When I saw the Willow/Fred scenes I thought that was so cute. Willow so has a crush on Fred and says rather regretfully " I'm seeing someone"

Dark Willow Vs Illyria would have been awesome. Are there any fics around with Willow/Fred pairings and Willow/Illyria pairings?

[scobro]

Willow so has a crush on Fred

That is what I always thought, esp. when she asks Wes at the beginning what her story was.

[littlewilly]

I didnt really notice any crush, they just seemed friendly to me.

[Atren]

I would have to be one of those who say no. Willow got too carried away about Fred eagerness.

[InsaneMystic]

I would have to be one of those who say no. Willow got too carried away about Fred eagerness.
IMO, Willow didn't get carried away nearly enough. :D While I do agree (grumblingly) that Fred's excitement over Will probably wasn't erotic in nature (more "ooh finally another geek girl around here, let's totally discuss quantum physics!"), I trust Will could have won her over to the L tribe with half a try. *closing my eyes and wishing very hard for that to have happened*

[InsaneMystic]

Spirit_Of_Fred agrees: let's totally discuss quantum physics!!!!!!!!!! i dont know why, but that made me laugh. perhaps because it would be a very un-fred-like thing to say. ...totally! LOL! :P
:sigh: I suck at stuff like that, just knowing the dubbed version, you know? Still happy to have made you laugh, though.

[charmingslayer]

I always hoped they would have paired Fred and Willow to make it
Frillow instead of Killow.
But i always wonder would Fred have turned into Illyria if she paired with Willow?

[GATEGOD]

It didn't seem to me that Fred was crushing on her... haha but I could be wrong.

[LittleMissLikesToFight]

Will def thought Fred was cute, but i think in a harmless way. Cuz you know, she had stuff going on with Kennedey (*gag*) And Fred i think had like... a crush in the non attracted way? like, you know how guys have mancrushes on each other because they look up to them or think they are cool or whatever... I think fred had a womancrush on her, just admiring her knowledge and enjoying the fact that she could talk about certain things with someone else for a change.