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Buffy obsessed fan
05-18-2008, 03:50 AM
Everyone always talks about favourite characters, and I don't think I've come across a thread about least favourite characters, so I decided to make one. I was going to do a poll, but then I'd have to pretty much write down EVERY character ever to be in Buffy and Angel...So I decided to just make a topic.

My least favourite character has to be Riley, I don't know why I just never liked him. And it made up my mind when he was so horrible in season five. Ack. I also hate Kennedy, because she's a spoilt brat and also I'm pretty biased toward Tara :p The only character in Angel I can think of that I don't particularly like are Holtz and Groo. Meh, they're both annoying.

InsaneMystic
05-18-2008, 04:07 AM
Yeah, Riley is a bore and Kennedy, well, she's SO not Tara.

But for sheer "get her out of my eyes, I hate her!" I will, as you probably have noticed in my posts before, stick to Joyce. She just rubs me totally the wrong way in about half the scenes she's in.

SintiKid
05-18-2008, 04:35 AM
Yeah at first every time Joyce was on screen all I could think was "aspirin commercial" but she grew on me. I can see why you don't like Kennedy too. I find Xander pretty annoying a lot of the time because of his mannerisms and speech impediment. I didn't like Cordelia early on in BTVS but then got to like her a bit but when she moved to ATS I really didn't like her. So I'll have to go with Cordelia.

Dancing man
05-18-2008, 04:44 AM
I dont like Dawn, Spike or Riley!

Cangel
05-18-2008, 04:49 AM
Oz on Buffy and Connor on Angel. Oz because I just never really clicked with the character, Connor because of the whole sleeping with Cordy thing.

Aussie
05-18-2008, 05:20 AM
Xander got on my nerves big time, but he was necessary.

Bluebird
05-18-2008, 05:27 AM
I didn't like eve. She was a poor replacement for lilah.

Joyce Summers
05-18-2008, 07:05 AM
Kennedy is the only one I strongly disliked. And a lot of Potentials in general. The only ones I liked were Vi, Amanda and the one that didn't speak English.
But Kennedy really rubbed me up in the wrong way. She just thought she knew it all and seen it all, at least that's how she came across. And I always felt like she shoved her way into a group dynamic (that by extension includes all of us) that had been going years and years and had seen so much and been through so much together. And she shoved herself in within a week! And then she thought she knew better about Willow's power (Until Will used her in that portal spell of course), I just really wanted to say to her 'Yes, you've always known about Slayers and Watchers but you're still a newbie so step aside and let the experts do their job!'.

But other than that I liked all the characters even the ones that drove me insane at times. (As for example Xander's reaction to the realization of Spuffy always gets me a little irritated. I mean he left his girl at the altar for crying out loud and he's upset about what was on the most basic of levels, comfort sex? Jeez. But you know, I still loved the character)

Crazy Flakes
05-18-2008, 07:50 AM
The first Buffy character that comes to mind is Kennedy. Like Joyce said, she acted like she knew everything from the getgo, and every time she spoke, I just wanted to slap her in the face. And I just thought she was a terrible girlfriend for Willow. They were hardly even friends, Willow always looked like she felt terribly awkward when they were talking, they were nothing alike, they had NO chemistry, Kennedy seemed so much younger than her, their relationship progressed far too quickly...I could go on. I know, a lot of people say, "Oh, you just don't like Kennedy because she's not Tara!" Wrong! I don't like her because she's so annoying!

On that note, I was incredibly annoyed by almost all of the Potentials. I thought season 7 was really good until they came along and completely ruined it. Rona really grated me sometimes, and even the Dania Ramirez character got on my nerves (although she gets extra points for being on Heroes now, even if Maya isn't really a great character.) I did, however, like Vi and the Chinese girl who didn't speak any English. Neither of them got enough screentime. And Amanda was alright at times, but I think she was just good compared to the other Potentials...if she had been the only one, I think we'd all hate her.

I also didn't like Warren, but to be honest, that's just because he killed Tara (although I did think the episode where he killed Katrina was incredibly boring.)

On Angel, I don't like Connor or Holtz. Do I even have to explain why I didn't like Connor? He whined constantly, he always got himself involved in things that were none of his business, he acted like he was "all that," and he slept with Cordy, who was practically his mother! Gross! I have to say, however, that he really redeemed himself in season 5. He was great in the two episodes he was in, and from what I've heard, he's good in After the Fall (I still need to get ATF, especially because I love Buffy season 8.) Holtz just kind of took up screentime, and, though he was well-acted, he was just boring in general. His actions were justified in the beginning, but after a few episodes, it was just, "We get it! You don't like Angel! Now get out!" I think I'm the only person that didn't hate Eve, but I certainly didn't like her. No one can replace Lilah.

Like Joyce said, all of the characters did a few things that annoyed me, particularly Xander, Dawn, and Buffy. I was always incredibly annoyed by Xander's reactions to things that didn't go his way, since he always just freaked out. Dawn complained a bit too much for my taste in seasons 5 and 6, although her complaints were definitely justified (and she was great in season 7.). Above all, though, I just hated Buffy's vanity. I understand, her superiority complex was a major part of season 7, but she had it since the show first started! As Willow would say, at times, she deserved to have "every square inch of her ass kicked."

Also, what's with all the Joyce hate?! She was a great character! Not only was she necessary, but she was a very realistic portrayal of a single mother put into those situations.

littlewilly
05-18-2008, 08:36 AM
Eve, Conner, knox, Ben,

The Ferg
05-18-2008, 08:47 AM
There's no one I really hate, but the one character that gets on my nerves from time-to-time is Cordelia (on BTVS). Although, I do really like her when she is going out with Xander. Other than that she's a total bitca.

btw, I haven't seen S7, so I wouldn't know about the Potentials or Kennedy. Although to me, Kennedy sound like a total nutjob, and they should bring back Tara. :)

Crazy Flakes
05-18-2008, 08:50 AM
There's no one I really hate, but the one character that gets on my nerves from time-to-time is Cordelia (on BTVS). Although, I do really like her when she is going out with Xander. Other than that she's a total bitca.


Have you seen Angel yet? Well, if you haven't, I'd like to bet that, by season 3, you like Cordelia. But I'm sure you'll hate Evil Cordy in season 4, since, well, she's just awful.

Kana
05-18-2008, 10:02 AM
I don't really hate characters but I don't like characters that i'm indifferent to. So that includes Eve, Graham and many of the potentials.

Aethra
05-18-2008, 11:09 AM
Hated Riley and Kennedy, never much liked Lilah (actually screamed at the television "b****, why won't you stay dead!" at the end of season four), and didn't at all like Wesley by the end of Angel.

The Kinslayer
05-18-2008, 11:55 AM
Of the really big characters Gunn is my least favourite. I donīt hate him or anything, itīs more like I donīt really care. It can also be because he "stole" Fred from Wesley, but I never admit to that fact.

And thereīs also Riley and Connor. Riley I liked at first but then he got together with Buffy he just became boring. And Connor. Well with his characters background most of his choices seemed pretty understandable but always felt so wrong. Sleeping with Cordelia was just yuck, but who hadnīt done the same if given the opportunity? He got way better in season 5 though.

Knox is played well, but I didnīt like that guy at all. Iīm glad he was evil.

Jonathan and Andrew are so much better than Warren it just bugged me he seemed to get most of the attention. But since he ended up dead (or you know) I guess I can live with that.

Eve and Kennedy donīt bother me that much really, and Eve I kind of like. But sheīs nothing compared to Lilah.

Finally I must say Iīm glad to see that Iīm not the only one liking Vi.

Buffy obsessed fan
05-18-2008, 11:58 AM
Have you seen Angel yet? Well, if you haven't, I'd like to bet that, by season 3, you like Cordelia. But I'm sure you'll hate Evil Cordy in season 4, since, well, she's just awful.

You don't like Evil Cordy? She rawks :p

The Ferg
05-18-2008, 01:46 PM
Have you seen Angel yet? Well, if you haven't, I'd like to bet that, by season 3, you like Cordelia. But I'm sure you'll hate Evil Cordy in season 4, since, well, she's just awful.
Sorry, but did you even read my post? I said Cordy in BTVS is annoying. I have seen Angel S4 and I did like Cordy (except when she was evil). She has grown up A LOT since BTVS.

vampireczarina
05-19-2008, 03:10 AM
I like most of the characters, but there are a couple I don't like as much. I agree with The Ferg that Cordy of BTVS was a bit annoying. I liked her better once she matured on Angel. And sorry, but your signature reminds me that I don't like Riley. I agreed with Spike when he was calling him Captain Cardboard. I always found him very 2 dimensional. He is kind of just some boring pretty boy, who can fight a monster or two. He just doesn't have much substance to him.

Natasha1988
05-19-2008, 04:19 PM
Dawn and Kennedy Have To be The Most Annoying Characters In Buffy History.....I have No Reason for Dawn Just that I hate Her lol........Kennedy was just a brat who thought she was in charge and didnt like it when things didnt go her way, I so wanted Faith to kick her ass in Season 7

Bangelxx
05-19-2008, 04:29 PM
Definitely Riley and Kennedy. Mainly because Riley wasn't Angel and Kennedy wasn't Tara!

littlewilly
05-19-2008, 09:54 PM
Did anyone else hate whistler?

caitaintdead
05-20-2008, 01:34 AM
The only character that I don't really like is Xander. I thought that it was disgusting that he left Anya at the altar. His treatment of people different to himself was always bordering on discrimination. I always found it strange that he refused to accept that Spike and Angel could be good people and always assumed it was jealously. His obsession with being cool and wanted went further then a simple need to be accepted and absolutely annoyed the hell out of me. He was a walking contradiction most of the time, making many mistakes that needn't be made. Oh, and his jokes always sucked.

I understand WHY he was on the show, and the part he played in the core four, but it doesn't change the fact that I feel he was on the show purely to annoy the hell out of me! I have so many more reasons as to my dislike for Xander, which have been discussed at HUGE length with my only real life Buffy-fan acquaintance who absolutely adores him, but I won't get into it to much more... Sorry if I offended any fans of the Xand-man.

Legate Damar
05-20-2008, 08:50 AM
The other characters that I didn't like all brought something to the storyline. But not Kennedy. She basically just craps all over Tara's memory, declares herself Queen of the Potentials in the most grating way possible, and gets Willow's character into an arc that she's just not ready for yet (still feeling bad about the end of the world thingy.)

To make things even worse, she doesn't even have any chemistry with Willow (despite obviously being written that way.) And the "payoff"? Killer in Me. Which isn't a bad ep, but not worth having to put up with Kennedy for a whole season.

Other characters that I don't like at least have some bearing on the plot:
-Yes, Joyce is a terrible mother, but she's Mom. And especially in high school, that makes her important.
-Yes, Dawn is irritating, but she's the key. And I know some of you didn't like season 5, but at least they got an entire season out of her existance rather than one lousy episode. (Anyone else watch Jon & Kate plus eight? Mady will grow up to be Dawn.)
-Riley may be very Blah, but he represents Buf's one (legitimate) attempt at relations with a non-vamp.

No one brings as little to the table as Kennedy. She just seemed so... unnecessary. Boo her!

Entiel
05-20-2008, 09:25 AM
unlike most people i have no problem with either Kennedy or Dawn...especially Dawn...But just like most of you I can't stand Riley..at first he was ok(although I still didn't like him)but especially in s5 he totally sucked :P
from the Angel crew I love all characters but sometimes I felt that Lorne didn't quite fit with the rest...Connor was tiring but he got over it+he rules in ATF

InsaneMystic
05-20-2008, 06:21 PM
from the Angel crew I love all characters but sometimes I felt that Lorne didn't quite fit with the rest...
I see what you mean. While I love Lorne, I also see him more as a very frequently recurring guest star than one of the "true" regulars, even though he's in the opening credits.
Well anyway, from what I've seen from Angel S5 yet, he's really sadly underused since the takeover of W&H (with the notable exception of "Live of the Party"), so that does nothing to remedy him coming off as a semi-outsider in the group.

LittleMissLikesToFight
05-20-2008, 06:27 PM
Glory is my most hated big bad (and i dont think thats a secret around here lol) and i really agree with the Kennedy hate.

I also HATE Harmony. ugh. she annoys the crap out of me.

littlewilly
05-20-2008, 06:29 PM
I think Lorne was hugely important. he didnt get many storylines but i thought he was really funny. except wesley in s1 and s2 lorne was the only one who brought fun and comedy to the gang. yuo got to have someone like that.

InsaneMystic
05-20-2008, 06:39 PM
I think Lorne was hugely important. he didnt get many storylines but i thought he was really funny. except wesley in s1 and s2 lorne was the only one who brought fun and comedy to the gang. yuo got to have someone like that.
Seems you were the last one I karmafied, so I have to make a new post to agree (and have the chance to babble a bit more :) ).

Lorne definitely was important, and his comedy factor was utterly needed as a counterweight to ol' Mopey! Comic relief in the truest sense of the word. :wink:
It's just that he so seldomly is in (or even near) the center of attention that he seems less a part of the team than any of the others. Pretty much the same as Anya in Buffy (though I have to admit I like him a lot better - don't understand this to mean I'd hate Anya, she just isn't one of my fave chars).

SC7 Fan
06-01-2008, 03:36 PM
i hated kennedy she was such a brat! i remember watching one clip when she was talking to spike and she was saying that they (the potentials) were trained and they knew better tham him. i just sat there and thought who the hell do you think your talking to!!!

Crazy Flakes
06-01-2008, 03:54 PM
-Yes, Joyce is a terrible mother, but she's Mom. And especially in high school, that makes her important.


I agree 200% with everything else you said in your post, but how do you figure Joyce is a bad mother?

I know that people are going to reply to this by bringing up what she said in Bargaining ("If you leave this house, don't even think about coming back!"), but we all know she didn't mean that. She was just letting out some of her frustration and fear, hence the fact that she was expecting Buffy to come back. She protected, loved, comforted, and cared for her daughters even under the most extreme circumstances. I think she was an exceptional character and mother.

Joyce Summers
06-01-2008, 05:53 PM
I agree 200% with everything else you said in your post, but how do you figure Joyce is a bad mother?

I know that people are going to reply to this by bringing up what she said in Bargaining ("If you leave this house, don't even think about coming back!"), but we all know she didn't mean that. She was just letting out some of her frustration and fear, hence the fact that she was expecting Buffy to come back. She protected, loved, comforted, and cared for her daughters even under the most extreme circumstances. I think she was an exceptional character and mother.

I completely agree with everything you said in this post here. And it really frustrates me when, (I'm not talking about fans here who have opinions just for having opinions since that's well, our thing) people in academic circles constantly say that, as, like you Crazy Flakes, I don't understand how they came to that conclusion.

Like you said, the only real instance of a bad moment (I'm not including Gingerbread since Joyce was techincally possessed like all the other adults at the time) is in Becoming (I assume that's what you meant by Bargaining. As Bargaining is the season 6 opener ;)) but I don't think that is as bad as everyone says. For one she's shown to immediately regret her words the moment Buffy walks out the door and what Mother hasn't lost their rag to that extent with their child?

I myself had an instance when I was actually around 17, when my Mother told me she had had enough and if I didn't stop whatever it was that was causing the argument (I'll admit, I can't fully remember now) she told me she was sending me off to live with my Father (A true threat considering I didn't like him one bit) and that she wasn't going to help me out anymore, look after me, full stop and that I was on my own. I stayed at a friends for the weekend but by Monday my Mom and I were hugging with her apologizing for saying those things and me apologizing for pushing her too far. And neither of us held grudges for the situation, just as neither Buffy nor Joyce do after the events of Dead Man's Party. It's just the way the Mother/Daughter relationship is. Sometimes you love each other, sometimes you want them out of your life for good. And considering Becoming had EXTREME circumstances (Culminating in Buffy only telling her Mother to 'have another drink') I don't think that really can be used as evidence to show Joyce as a bad Mother.

And would a bad Mom, accept Dawn as a daughter despite finding out the truth about her? "She's not mine is she, but she does belong to us?". Joyce didn't care that she wasn't hers, that she technically wasn't family, she remembered her, loved her and so wouldn't stop loving and caring for her.

In Gingerbread, even Willow inadvertently points out what a good Mother Joyce is when commenting on the Mother-Daughter bonding on patrol when she says 'God, your Mother would actually take the time to do that?'. And the Scooby gang over and over again showed how much they liked/loved Joyce in a second-Mom kind of way. Similar to how Giles was much like a Father figure to them all. (Which totally fits into Joss' obsession with the non-traditional family; the one you choose instead).

And let's not forget Spike's nice quote "Joyce was the only one of the lot of you that I could stand . . . I liked the lady . . . She was decent. She didn't put on airs. She always had a nice cuppa for me. And she never treated me like a freak."

I understand how Joyce can frustrate some people (Ironically she drives my own Mother insane.) but just because she annoys you, whether sometimes or all the times, does not make her a bad Mother. All she seems to do is be Compassion Lady, even from an entirely neutral view there is no evidence that states she is a bad Mom. Just a good Mom, who like everyone else in the world, sometimes makes a mistake.

In all honesty, her complete early-season naivety aside, I hope in the future I can be as half as good a Mother as Joyce was. (But hopefully InsaneMystic won't find me annoying.....;))


If you want an example of a bad Mother in the Buffyverse look at Sheila Rosenberg. In Gingerbread, from her you-cut-your-hair comment we learn she hasn't even looked at her daughter in six months.

The Ferg
06-01-2008, 07:51 PM
Eve is probably the most annoying chick I've ever seen. Ok, not really, but the actor's voice makes me wanna punch a wall 8 times in succession.

InsaneMystic
06-02-2008, 05:13 AM
IIn all honesty, her complete early-season naivety aside, I hope in the future I can be as half as good a Mother as Joyce was. (But hopefully InsaneMystic won't find me annoying.....;))
Nah, I'm sure you'll do much better than that. :)

Just remember, don't kick your kids out of the house if they're trying to stop the demonic apocalypse. :wink:


If you want an example of a bad Mother in the Buffyverse look at Sheila Rosenberg. In Gingerbread, from her you-cut-your-hair comment we learn she hasn't even looked at her daughter in six months.
At least we didn't have to endure Sheila in every other ep, unlike other Moms in the show. :biggrin: Though you're right, her two appearances ("Gingerbread", and one offscreen call up to Willow's room in one other, I think it was in "Lie to Me") are enough to not make me want to see more of her anyway.

Buffanator
06-02-2008, 08:53 AM
Ugh. In BtVS... Dawn annoyed the hell out of me. Whiney little "give me attention!" brat. I was so hoping she'd jump into the portal at the end of S-5, thus SAVING the world AND no longer existing...

Also, TARA. I know, I know. Tara has a large following. But I never saw her as an important character. I felt like she only existed to walk Willow down the lesbian road, and died so Willow could join the dark side for a minute. I never felt "their great love", and I didn't see that she brought out so much wonderful goodness in Willow. Don't get me wrong, I didn't *hate* Tara, and I thought Amber Benson did a super job in the character, & I certainly didn't mind that Willow was gay (altho I'd have preferred her to be BI-SEXUAL, so that after Tara died, she could have been with Xander... but that would have messed up the Xander/Anya thing, so I'm shutting up about that for now...)

But I would much have preferred AMY to be Willow's witch-lover. I think they could have caused a great deal of chaos (in a fun, yet dangerous way) & would have made a totally cute couple.

As for Kennedy - I like her character - but hated her with Willow. It was an unnecessary relationship. WHY HAVE IT? Giles had no one. Buffy had no one. Xander & Anya sort of had each other, but mostly not. It was just a useless relationship, but I did like Kennedy as a potential. She had "Faith" potential, IMHO. The other potentials were weiners. :p

In Ats, Connor got on my last damn nerve. Another whiney little brat, just like Dawn. I loved the couple of times that Angel kicked his ass, & could have happily enjoyed seeing him do so in every single episode.

& on a different note... can I just say that I'm so happy the bandwidth is no longer exceeded?!!!! :D :D :D

The Chosen
06-02-2008, 09:20 AM
Honestly, I don't dislike any character. I think they're all great. (Even Kennedy and Rona. Especially Rona. Rona was awesome.)

I liked Riley and Dawn. (Dawn's one of my favorite characters actually.)

But if I HAD to have a least favorite character, it'd probably be Hank. He was so...not there. Crappy dad IMO.

InsaneMystic
06-02-2008, 02:20 PM
Like you said, the only real instance of a bad moment (I'm not including Gingerbread since Joyce was techincally possessed like all the other adults at the time) is in Becoming (I assume that's what you meant by Bargaining.
Ooh, I can't believe I had forgotten about this one, but I've only just re-watched "Ted" and there's another moment ripe for Joyce-bashing (don't nail me down on the exact quote, as you know I'm re-translating from the German dubbed version):

Buffy: Mom, Ted threatened me.
Joyce: What? (looks concerned for a second, than smiles dismissively) No, he didn't.

Siding with your boyfriend and not your daughter, when she tells you he's ready to use violence on her? That's major bad for a mum. Especially since it's unfortunately a rather common real-life situation (remember that at that moment, Uncle Teddy still seemed like a normal - even though none too emotionally stable - human male).

Kemy
06-02-2008, 02:34 PM
Kennedy, no explanation needed for those who have sat through Season 7 despite her whining. Loathe that character...

Joyce Summers
06-02-2008, 03:38 PM
Buffy: Mom, Ted threatened me.
Joyce: What? (looks concerned for a second, than smiles dismissively) No, he didn't.

Siding with your boyfriend and not your daughter, when she tells you he's ready to use violence on her? That's major bad for a mum. Especially since it's unfortunately a rather common real-life situation (remember that at that moment, Uncle Teddy still seemed like a normal - even though none too emotionally stable - human male).

Ah, but remember at the time Joyce was full-on drugged by Ted? Willow said what was in the cookies made you mellow and compliant...primarily to Ted. I remember some Buffy writer (I forget which one- naughty me!) saying that the way they kept styling Joyce's hair was to tell how drugged she was. The more 50s Housewife her hair became the more drugged and therefore compliant to Ted she was. And in that particular scene her hair was very 1950s retro and she was currently eating all those things Ted had baked so she was definitely drugged in that Kitchen Scene.

But after he 'dies' and she's off the drugs (hair going back to normal curl) the first thing she says to him is her concern for Buffy and then she tries to get away from. Both of which admittedly gets Ted pretty angry....

So, you can't really put the blame on Joyce entirely for that since she was on a Cookie High.:D Haha.

But in any other situation I agree, siding with your boyfriend over your child is a big capital NO-NO.

white avenger
06-02-2008, 06:59 PM
Actually, my least favorite character in the entirety of the Buffy series is Warren. He was cruel, bullying, and just a plain EVIL HUMAN BEING. The vampires, demons, cyborgs, and other assorted baddies on the show weren't really evil as much as they were just true to their nature and saw humans as prey. I never really felt any animosity toward any of them, they were just members of the opposing army. Warren was, as far as I can remember, the only really evil human ever depicted on the show.

spark
06-03-2008, 02:24 PM
gotta go with the popular vote of kennedy also. something about her irritated me plus as others said, she's no tara.
i also disliked riley (so sappy!) and amy.

Atren
06-04-2008, 11:01 AM
Kennedy and Riley had same problem imo -- they tried to do too much with them. Both of them would been less annoying if kept them simpler. By that for example i do not mean don't have Riley be Initiative soldier, fine let him be. But make it so they do not really notice each other until Buffy in Initiative imo.

Same with Kennedy -- he was annoying slayer for me from start, but not annoying as in sense asked in here. Not even romance with Willow, but the rushing of it is what annoys (in sense asked on this thread) most making her my least favorite character.

Rowan Hawthorn
06-04-2008, 11:20 AM
Same with Kennedy -- he was annoying slayer for me from start, but not annoying as in sense asked in here. Not even romance with Willow, but the rushing of it is what annoys

Once again, I have to ask: What rushing? Willow's relationship with Kennedy proceeded at almost exactly the same pace as her relationship with Tara.

ashleey
06-04-2008, 11:33 AM
I don't like kennedy.
I don't like people who are egotistic.

lemst6
06-04-2008, 04:42 PM
I guess this just goes to show how good of an actress Juliet is, but I don't like Drusilla because she creeps me out.

Atren
06-05-2008, 01:03 AM
Once again, I have to ask: What rushing? Willow's relationship with Kennedy proceeded at almost exactly the same pace as her relationship with Tara.

It felt rushed to me, i have not kept score of number of episodes it took for any of them (Oz, Tara or Kennedy), but it felt hastened. Maybe it was overall athmosphere and setting or that Kennedy was nothing like her previous ones.

That does not mean i hate her altough, i do not really hate anyone on show. Closest to hate i got was Dawn after S5 i think, but that went better afterwards. I am actually quite pleased that Kennedy survived as there were enough deaths already in final episode.

littlewilly
07-08-2008, 02:47 PM
Um... Connor.... Kennedy..... Illyria..... Thats the only ones i hate. But Illyrias the worst just for the complete ludacrisness of her.

Fake Shemp
07-08-2008, 02:56 PM
Connor! how could i forget connor! thank you!

Angel's Avenger
07-10-2008, 07:21 AM
Buffy:

Kennedy. What can I say? One of the WORST characters on Buffy.

Riley: Boring and too needy of Buffy.

Oz: He started out good but I grew to dislike him in season 4 when he broke Willow's heart. When he came back, he thought Willow was waiting around for him. Get real.

Dawn: Reminds me of Connor. Constantly whinging, "me, me, me" it grew old.

Angel:

Connor. Even after he KNEW Angel was a good guy he still resented him! It was like, get over it! And he slept with Cordy, that sealed my hate for him.

Harmony: Useless character, waste of space.

Eve: Poor replacement for the awesomeness that was Lilah.

The Kinslayer
07-10-2008, 07:28 AM
Riley: Boring and too needy of Buffy.
Boring sure. Needy? That may be. But let Spike and Riley change places for a while and see what you think. Imagine Riley being the pathetic "stalker" Spike was for a while. That would have been even worse, donīt you think? Riley was boring (safe), Spike was not. Thereīs the difference.

And he slept with Cordy, that sealed my hate for him.
Ok, as a guy let me defend Connor a bit. He donīt remember Cordy, so he has no "mother" feelings what so ever. She came on to him, not the other way around. And lets face it, not many teenagers would turn her down. Blame Cordy/Jasmine or the writers instead. ;) Or even Charisma for getting pregnant in the first place. The writers didnīt want another pregnancy. They thought it was enough with Darla. But what could they do?

But lets be clear. I hated that it happened.

Lily
07-10-2008, 07:40 AM
Kennedy was definately my least favourite out of BtVS and AtS, she just seemed so out of place and unneccessary.
Close second would be Kate.

LorneyTunes
07-10-2008, 09:29 AM
Kennedy, Cassie i know she ain't a main character but shes annoying , Riley is really annoying . I hate Amy x

InLoveWithBuffy
07-10-2008, 01:33 PM
Kennedy and Harmony. No need for explanation

Fake Shemp
07-10-2008, 02:06 PM
oh i love harmony!

connor grew on me, a little bit actually.... and i seem to be the only one not to hate Kennedy

littlewilly
07-10-2008, 04:09 PM
I love Harmony too. Sexy and Funny.

Fake Shemp
07-10-2008, 05:03 PM
i mean she was always a follower but who couldn't resist her as a vamp! (when she's with spike she's HILARIOUS.... "buffy wont stop till she's killed me to death" and that breadbox thing...LOL)

Edit:

yeah i loved it how they filmed it like a major fight scene, all the woopfy music and the slow camera FANTASTIC!

littlewilly
07-10-2008, 05:05 PM
Real me she was just priceless.

''Im calling her out''

''They're my minions....''

Fake Shemp
07-10-2008, 05:25 PM
"come out and die slayer! i know you're in there (cut) what do you mean she's not in there? She has to be, I'm calling her out."

oh LOL-a lot....

"Harmony has minions....."

Lindsey McDonald
07-10-2008, 06:49 PM
I had mixed feelings about Eve, cause I just knew that an undead Lilah would have been so much better. However, if Lilah had had that thing with Lindsey, I would have been muchly upset. Plus, I liked the whole needy turn she took towards the end. Plus, she helps confirm my "Lindsey and Angel, sitting in a tree" theory that nobody else seems to like.

I didn't like Kennedy because the relationship was rushed. It simply was. It doesn't matter if they went as slow as Tara and Oz, and it doesn't matter that a year has passed for Willow. The audience wasn't ready for her to move on, and that means bad writing to me. Ergo, it was rushed. Not for Willow, not for Tara, but for us.

Riley.....bleugh. I do appreciate that that was the point though, so I can deal.