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Yam Sham
07-22-2008, 03:30 PM
I saw TDK on Saturday, and let me tell ya, it knocked my socks off.
It was so amazing, and I plan on seeing it again ASAP, so basically, I'm gonna rave about this movie!

First of all, The Joker made the movie for me. Not only was he SO HOT (It's a me thing. Don't diss!), but Heath's acting was just amazing. Since The Joker is perhaps my favorite villain of all time, it's not easy for someone to do him justice in my eyes, and Heath just nailed it. RIP...we lost a great actor (and the possibility of a great Joker sequel starring him). :[ And as much as I'd like to see The Joker in the next movie, I don't think anyone could replace Heath. The Nurse Joker scene and the "magic trick"...brilliant!

And then there was Christian Bale. Not as hot as The Joker, but still gorgeous. He was definitely channeling Patrick Bateman as Bruce Wayne, but either way, he did a good job. And as for Batman, he could have done better; his Batman voice was pretty ridiculous. But hey, at least he didn't have Batnipples a la Batman & Robin, right? ;)

Aaron Eckhart also did a great job in this movie. As a big Two-Face fan, I'd say hee managed to transform from Harvey to Two-Face surprisingly well, which couldn't have been easy because it was such a quick, sudden transition. Though I don't agree with the fangirls who are saying he's hot (because seriously, The Joker was the hottest part of the movie for me, ha), he did a great job.

Also, major props to Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman (as usual...), and Michael Caine! And I would say that Maggie Gyllenhaal did well, but I just couldn't stand Rachel...I'm glad she ended up dying.

What did you guys think of the movie? Did any of you go at midnight (or maybe even in costume)? And which Batman characters would you like to see in the next movie (and who you'd like to play them)?

DarklyDreamingDrusilla
07-22-2008, 05:00 PM
I absolutely loved the Batman movie! I did go to the midnight showing and I made I really cool shirt I will try to upload some pics of it later. There were a bunch of people dressed up like Batman and a few people were joker and I do have to say props on those costumes. Heath was an absolutely stunning Joker. My favorite part of the entire movie was when he dressed up like the nurse. :smile: It was soo friggin hilarious. When he goes out in the hallway and gets the hand sanatizer LMAO! Anyway I would really like to see Harley Quinn in the next movie maybe played by hmmm Natalie Portman I dunno! I just love that character. So yeah great movie and oh yeah Christian Bale was in it.

Blondie Bear
07-22-2008, 05:05 PM
I guess this kind of thing just isn't my . . . thing. I loved the Joker, but other than that I didn't care much. I was a bit disappointed that Two-Face died so fast. I kind of expected him to be the big villain in the next movie. And I'm sad that there can't be a sequel with the Joker. :(

Lyri
07-22-2008, 05:23 PM
I heard Kieth Szarabajcka (Holtz) is in this movie, but I haven't heard what part he's playing, or if he was any good. Well? Was he? lol

I'm so excited for this movie. It doesn't hit here until Thursday, I think, so by that stage, I should be back on my feet and I'll be able to see it at the weekend, fingers crossed.

I've been so excited about this movie since last summer, and it just looks awesome. I can't wait to see it.

SpikedBuffy
07-22-2008, 06:07 PM
I guess I need a brain transplant or something... but I was not as enthralled as everyone else. It didn't blow me away. Sure, it was highly entertaining, but I think I went in with too high of expectations, because of what everyone was saying. I did like it, but..... I don't know, I guess I just can't express my feelings correctly. (Plus, I don't want to be tarred and feathered!)

goldenboy
07-22-2008, 06:20 PM
I’ve actually read some purists online complaining that this wasn’t really a comic book movie, that is was basically a crime drama with a superhero inserted into it. They were sort of lamenting the loss of the fantasy aspect, thinking this bodes ill for the genre.

I really liked it a lot, but I didn’t love it on an emotional level, ya know? I admire it. To me it was refreshing cos it felt like a throwback to great crime/heist movies from the 70s, 80s.

Ledger’s Joker, just transcendent. Very inventive, dread-inducing, funny. This almost felt like a horror movie at times when he was around. Or a black comedy.

I appreciated the the music a lot, the score. Really pretty minimalistic. Very effective at ratcheting up tension. Good stuff.

Some great, imaginative action. The retrieval of the accountant in Hong Kong, the chase through Gotham with Joker, Harvey Dent and Batman on his bat-pod...

And I like how this series tackles really basic superhero issues of vigilantism, terrorism, corruption...using lies and deception to protect people—that runs throughout the film, among many characters.

Superstar
07-22-2008, 10:29 PM
I’ve actually read some purists online complaining that this wasn’t really a comic book movie, that is was basically a crime drama with a superhero inserted into it. They were sort of lamenting the loss of the fantasy aspect
The director's goal was to avoid the fantasy aspect.
He refuses to adhere to it. Which is also why some of the more iconic villains of Batman will not be seen, ever.
I think it is a good choice.

NightBird
07-25-2008, 04:33 AM
I love Bat-man and all his villains and I in total shock at how amazing the dark knight is.

The thing I enjoyed most about the film was that to be it felt like a comic book, I'm not entirely sure what some 'fanboys' mean by taking the fantasy out of Bat-man, i've been reading the comics for the past 7 years and for the most part the hasn't been all that fantastical, the only thing I can think they mean is the fact that MR.J didn't use a killer hand buzzer or throw a pie.

The new bat films are based on 'year one' and while I haven't yet read it, I know that Frank Miller wrote it, and Miller is famous for dark and 'realistic' stories and even darker characters.

My fav part of the film was of course the joker, this has nothing to do with Heath Ledgers death, in the film he IS the joker and I forgot that Heath was no longer with us during the film because I wasn't seeing anyone but the joker.

My personal favourite aspect of the film has to be... the way the joker re-told fake stories of how he got his scars, oh and the way he kept doing that tongue thing made me 'feel' his scars.

JCC
07-25-2008, 05:51 AM
When I saw the guy who plays Holtz I was like "HOLY FREAKING CRAP!" and gesturing to my friends 'Look, it's Holtz, it's Holtz!' and they were like "... yeah... sure... go away."

TheHeartist
07-26-2008, 07:46 AM
Saw it last night, bloody fantastic! Ledger stole the movie, that's a definitive Joker right there, and considering someone as illustrious as Jack Nicholson has previously played the same role, that's quite the achievement.

Karrde
07-26-2008, 07:58 AM
I heard Kieth Szarabajcka (Holtz) is in this movie, but I haven't heard what part he's playing, or if he was any good. Well? Was he? lol

Holtz was actually really good in my opinion, though I'd love to have seen the actual fight with Joker...
And the movie if brilliant, I'm going to see it again tonight! Uh, uh, and I got the free bat-pod poster at the premiere in Ljubljana. :D

Blondie Bear
07-26-2008, 08:17 AM
I actually didn't notice Holtz. Huh.

Karrde
07-26-2008, 08:33 AM
I actually didn't notice Holtz. Huh.

SPOILER: The cop that Joker takes hostage while everyone else goes after Dent and Dawes before everything blows to Kingdom Come? Gained quite a few pounds, but then again, also a lot of gray hairs...
Btw. how do you mark spoilers with that black strip?

Aleris
07-27-2008, 12:07 AM
I'm usually not a fan comic book superhero movies, and I never got around to seeing Batman Begins so I'm missing a bit of back story, but I really enjoyed this movie.

I like that they're moving away from the fantasy super power elements because IMO that makes this movie that much more chilling and scary. Superpowers were always the metaphor for real-world situations, but seeing it play out in a real-world way is that much more eye-opening and spine tingling.

It didn't grab my attention for the whole movie, towards the end I felt that the story dragged a little, but it was kind of necessary for the impact of the moral of Two-Face to show through effectively.

I've never read the comic books so I wont speculate on which characters should/could be introduced in the next movie, but for once I'm looking forward to a continuation of a superhero movie. :D

Great work!

NightBird
07-27-2008, 11:16 AM
I've never read the comic books so I wont speculate on which characters should/could be introduced in the next movie, but for once I'm looking forward to a continuation of a superhero movie. :D


I will, I think that they will go with either 'The Black Mask' or 'The mad hatter'.

I've heard that in the next one 'Robin' will be showing up as a girl, I don't know if thats means Steph or not.

If it does then the film should do 'War games' (a story from the comics, with Black mask.)

I'd prefer to see 'the mad hatter' but with his recent pedophile vibe the film would have to be subtle and disturbingly brilliant, I don't think this will happen as I think it would be far too dark for DC to do in a mainstream film, especially seeing as the pedophile thing has only been hinted at.

Edit:

Lookie at what i'm getting for my birthday.

Amazon.com: Dark Knight The Joker Statue: Toys Games (http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Knight-The-Joker-Statue/dp/B0015QV72S)

After seeing the dark knight I had to buy one, just to commemorate and celebrate Heath Ledgers performance and it looks ace.

There are on 6000 in the world with to a collecto-geek like me is aces.lol

randiann
07-28-2008, 12:46 PM
I loved it. The only thing that bothered me was that (with me being me) when I saw how disfigured Harvey Dent was I kept thinking "there's no way he could talk if his face was that badly injured. It'd be impossible" over and over. I think that in trying to make it more gruesome looking it made the scenes with him less believable (sp?).

I also didn't notice Holtz. Crap.

Blondie Bear
07-28-2008, 12:52 PM
^ That's what I was thinking! He can't talk like that. And he'd be drooling constantly. And he'd be dead in a few days without skin grafts, anyway--can we say gangrene?

Ah, suspension of disbelief. Sometimes it gets really strained.

fly on the wall
07-28-2008, 01:01 PM
I saw it, I liked it, I wasn't in love with it as some people were.
Some people I talked to were speechless for hours afterward and ehh, I wasn't.
I had no idea that the Joker was Heath Ledger until someone told me afterwards though. It looked nothing like him. He did a great job with it.

Winifred Wyndham-Pryce
07-28-2008, 01:05 PM
This movie blew me a way. I loved every aspect of it and the fact that heath did an amazing job as the joker had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I can't wait to see if they do another movie.

I for one don't think two-face is dead. I mean yeah it looks like he is but then again he may not be.

sk73
07-28-2008, 02:58 PM
Just saw it too.
It was great. Not that extremely great that many seems to think though.
For me it was just another great movie...

Heath Ledger was impressive. His Joker worked.

The thing that annoyed me the most is actually Batmans voice.
I guess he tries to hide his real voice or something but still...

/SK

Kryptonite
07-29-2008, 06:58 AM
I don't think Two Face is really dead.

Also, what did everyone think of the cat reference when they were talking about his new suit? Maybe forshadowing for Catwoman in the next movie?

And how do you think Bale's negative media right now will affect the next movie?

Buffanator
07-29-2008, 10:49 AM
I haven't seen it yet, but plan to as soon as the DVD is released. I detest theatres, with their dark, danky smelly ickiness, and a-holes & their cell phones & crying kids & wankers who come in late & $20 for a 12lb Nestle Crunch bar with a 14-liter soda that is watered down & I miss an important part because I have to pee....

Yeah, sorry for the run-on, but I'd rather watch it on my surround sound system in the comfy goodness of my living room, with my own popcorn & whatever else I want, and oh yeah! Pause for pee'n! Woo hoo! :lmao:

But I've heard it's really good, & I loved Batman Begins. But I also loved Batman with Michael Keaton as Batman & Jack Nicholson as Joker... and I liked the 2nd one w/Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman & Danny DeVito as Penguin. However - I am a huge Heath Ledger fan & look very forward to his portrayal of Joker. I just really hate that he died so young. :(

slayerpower
07-29-2008, 04:54 PM
Here's some of Keith S.'s (Holtz) dialogue--He played Det. Stephens

The Joker: I want...I want my phone call. I want my phone call.
Detective Stephens: That's nice.
The Joker: How many of your friends have I killed?
Detective Stephens: I'm a twenty year man. I can tell the difference between punks who need a little lesson in manners... and the freaks like you who would just enjoy it.
[pause]
Detective Stephens: And you've killed six of my friends.
The Joker: [faking interest, mouths "ten"]

sk8rj04
07-29-2008, 06:31 PM
I really don't understand that, with all Bruce Wayne's money, he couldn't get a freakin voice changer attached to his mask or something that would make him sound more heroic and frightening to his enemies than a "I'm-trying-to-disguise-my-voice,-can't-you-tell", hoarse voice?

Keanoite
08-03-2008, 08:59 AM
I loved the film, all though I don't think could watch the whole thing again, maybe just the Joker's scenes.

That's what I really came here to talk about because, MY GOD was Ledger amazing in that role. The effect the performance has on you has nothing to do with him being dead because, as someone said already, you totally forget that he has passed while watching the movie. He absolutely stole the role and the movie. He deserves an Oscar for that performance. No doubt.

definition of insane
08-04-2008, 04:51 AM
I'm not a huge fan of the Batman Empire (so Clooney and Kilmer kinda ruined it for me) and I didn't watch Batman Begins and I pretty much just watched this to marvel at Heath Ledger...but I was very impressed. Not just with his performance as The Joker, which was unfreakingbelieveable...but just the depth and darkness of it, without relying on to much actual "dark".

And Two-Face *shudder* I was just freaked and grossed out at the face....it freaked me out worse than Ted did. And I was freaked out by Ted. But that's what kinda made that aspect awesome.

I'm sure I read somewhere Angelina Jolie is tipped to play Catwoman in the next one...

Bluebird
08-10-2008, 08:46 AM
I like the character of Batman and all the villains but I generally don't like any of the movies cos I always want them darker, less cartoony. So this worked for me.:biggrin: I haven't seen Batman Begins (I don't think I ever will) but I thought The Dark Knight was a fantastic movie. The hype over this film really started to annoy me - too much of it puts me off going to see a film. I refused to watch any trailers or read any reviews or articles. I didn't want to end up hating the film before I had even seen it, I wanted to be able to watch it completely free of any influences.

Anyways, before I had seen it I thought maybe Heath Ledger was a bit young to play The Joker but watching it you 1. don't even realise who it is you're watching anymore - it's The Joker not Heath Ledger and 2. you forget that he's a young guy in his 20's - it's a complete and perfect portrayal in every way.

I enjoyed every other performance in the film too, especially Aaron Eckhart, and I think it works as a really good thriller movie - I haven't been to the cinema in a while and this really impressed me which doesn't happen a lot.:biggrin: So I'm goin to go see it again this Friday and I've got tickets to go see it at the IMAX theatre - YAY!: popcorn:

LorneyTunes
08-10-2008, 10:28 AM
It was without a doubt the best film I have seen this year and I am quite bias because I am in love with Batman lol x


I think every actor in that film was great , but Heath and Aaron where Fantastic they both outshown Christian Bale by Miles and hes a great actor x

white avenger
08-10-2008, 11:06 AM
I finally got to see it yesterday, and, having just the week before watched the first one, Bane in "Dark Knight" was almost a shock. Am I the only one who noticed how much weight the guy has lost? Maybe it was on purpose to show the how the rigors of "superheroing" can affect the body, but if not, the guy looks like he's got some serious health problems.

MSchett
08-10-2008, 11:26 AM
best moment of the entire movie me and my friend joked about it for hours the magic "disappearing" pencil that the joker smashed into the guys eye!!! It mustve been a damn strong pencil cuz every time I tryed stabbing a pencil into a hard surface it just kinda breaks...

As for the rest of the movie, definately one of the best films ive seen in a long time! Heath Ledger(R.I.P.) is so amazing as the Joker! And also i loved the fact that the actor who played Holtz(cant remember the name) got his ass kicked...

white avenger
08-10-2008, 11:54 AM
Keanoite agrees: You clearly haven't seen him in the Machineist then

Nope, haven't seen that one. These days we miss a lot more movies than we watch, even after they come out on disc. Hopefully, there'll be more time before too much longer...

vicious sid
09-14-2008, 11:52 AM
mindblowing, truly never thought a batman movie could be this introspective and dark, almost every character was so well built, with such an amazing depth and emotional range, of course i was blown away by heath ledger's performance a true shame hes not among us anymore, one of my favourite movies recently without a doubt