Has your opinion of Eliza changed?

[Allycat]

Has your opinion of Eliza changed any, since you found out she hunts? (Read the thread Eliza Dushku hunting animals - Buffy-Boards (http://www.buffy-boards.com/showthread.php?t=39721) for more info.)

Since the other thread about it became more of a discussion about the pros and cons of hunting, let this be a thread to express how you feel this whole hunting-thing reflects on Eliza.

[MSchett]

i voted better. gotta respect a girl who knows how to use a bow

[Superstar]

Oh you bet.
Even before this I was a SMG and ED fan.
Eliza just pulled ahead a bit.

[sk73]

Well, I am not big fan of hunting with bow and arrows.

But you will never be able to know what anyone really thinks and how they are as a person by interviews and such.
I have always liked her as an actress and I will continue to do so.

And it will definitely not affect the way I look at hers characters on screen!

/SK

[kater]

whether you like that she hunts or not, you have to admit she's a pretty good shot!

[Cangel]

Well I don't really care if anyone hunts or not, so my opinion of her hasn't changed a bit.

[The Kinslayer]

I´m a bit torn. The fact that she hunt doesn´t bother me so much (if any), but the fact as she came off (personal opinion people) like it was just a "cool" thing to do disturbs me a little. And you hunters out there need to help me. Was that really an impressive performance she did? To me it felt like she really didn´t have the skill to actually go out and kill an animal the way I´d like it to be. And I guess that´s the combination that scares/annoys me.

But I could be wrong. Do this bothers me so much that I don´t like her anymore? Nope, but it didn´t push her up the scale.

[Veyron]

I'm the one who voted "I don't know/care/other" - as to me it makes no difference what-so-ever what people do with themselves in their spare time - as long as they aren't wandering about with the intent to do harm to me or mine then I really don't care.

Eliza can go hunting in the woods with a bow, a bowie knife or a dinner fork for me, if that's what she's into, then good for her.

As for the poll - well, I didn't know she was into hunting before I read it as I didn't actually read the other thread (sorry!).

[Joyce Summers]

I don't know. I suppose when I first found out I was a little...iffy about her, I guess you could say. My dislike for hunting unavoidably effecting my opinion of her, but as a whole, it hasn't changed that much. I mean sure she does something I myself don't approve of, but lots of people do things I don't like. We all have different interests in opinions so that the fact she hunts is to me a separate issue to my like of her I guess.

What I'm saying is I don't like the fact she hunts, but I still think she's a great actress, and from what I've seen, presumably a great, fun person.

[Aussie]

My opinion of her hasnt changed at all. I think it does again came down to if you are pro or anti hunting, if you dont like hunting then there is a good chance you dont like the people who do it only because they do it.
If she wants to hunt occasionally go for it, its not as if she is torturing animals for pleasure.

[eponinethen]

Well obviously it is a bit strange, and if I ever felt like she was a person I might want to be friends with (you know, if we lived in the same world), I don't anymore. But that doesn't mean I won't see her movies/shows..

[Blondie Bear]

While I usually don't care what people do with their off-screen time (to a point . . . there are a select few actors whose work I will NOT see because I refuse to support other projects they're doing on the side), I think it's nifty that Eliza is willing to try new things and that she found such joy in something that's stereotypically a "man's" thing. It's kind of like finding out that Vin Diesel used to play D&D. He's a nerd like us! And look what he's accomplished!

[white avenger]

My opinion of Eliza has changed for the better, not because of her hunting, but because of the fact that she is honest about it and dosen't seem to feel that she needs to apologize to anyone for her actions.

[Aethra]

My opinion hasn't changed. There's really not much more than that.

[scobro]

It's kind of like finding out that Vin Diesel used to play D&D. He's a nerd like us!
Whoooa what's this US thing all about ?!?

[Blondie Bear]

^ Um, me and other people who play D&D?

[VisionGuy]

I voted "I don't care." Because I don't.

[Highlander]

I´m a bit torn. The fact that she hunt doesn´t bother me so much (if any), but the fact as she came off (personal opinion people) like it was just a "cool" thing to do disturbs me a little. And you hunters out there need to help me. Was that really an impressive performance she did? To me it felt like she really didn´t have the skill to actually go out and kill an animal the way I´d like it to be. And I guess that´s the combination that scares/annoys me.

But I could be wrong. Do this bothers me so much that I don´t like her anymore? Nope, but it didn´t push her up the scale.

To answer your question about hunting being cool, I have spent weeks in the woods and my greatest experiences came not from killing my quarry but from the doe looking over my shoulder while I was turkey hunting( I could have literally bent my arm and touched her), the chipmunk that ran over my hand, the falcon perched 20 ft above my head in the tree I was under. If you have never hunted, it is really hard to explain to someone and have them grasp that hunting is a total experience with killing the animal you are after being the sum result of everything working just right; snap a twig at the wrong time, shift your sitting position without knowing what is behind you, dozing off...The jig is up and you get the finger of the wild(White-tail deer warning to other deer and reminder to you by raising and waving their tail).

As to your concern over her shooting accuracy, there are far too many factors that would have had an influence on her shooting: Very long day and she was tired, previous practice shooting that tired her muscles causing her shooting form to be less than it normally is.... etc.

I can point out where errors occured, but those happen to every archer at some point and are usually a temporary set back and recovery is usually the next day. Another factor could have been mishandling of her equipment by others like bumping her sight.

Eliza hunting is a great thing and her willingness to talk about it is even better. I hope she continues to do so.

[Primal Slayer]

No not the least. While im not big on hunting, if someone wants to do it then let them. One of the friends family is into hunting. Its not something I would see as that big of a deal.

[The Kinslayer]

Since I don´t know if you´ve read my post in the other thread I might sound like a broken record. I know this subject is way over my head, so if it seems like I´m stating my opinios as fact I apologize. Never my intent. This might not be helpful at all, but I´m giving it a try.


To answer your question about hunting being cool…
You might have misunderstood me. I didn´t say that hunters in general or even that Eliza thinks that way. Only that I got the impression that she thought so. Like someone thinks that smoking, riding motorcycles, getting tatoos or be into a certain band is cool. But it´t really nothing else than an impression. And lets face it, impressions are just impressions and nothing else. So one impression on one person. Nothing else, ok?

As to your concern over her shooting accuracy, there are far too many factors that would have had an influence on her shooting

I know that there can be many reasons for her “result”. But based on what we saw. Can you blame my initial reaction? Just curious since some people seem to think she showed great skill.


I can point out where errors occured, but those happen to every archer at some point and are usually a temporary set back and recovery is usually the next day. Another factor could have been mishandling of her equipment by others like bumping her sight.
Errors occur everywhere ereryday. It´s just then it comes to the wellbeing of humans or animals I get more sensitive. I know the word “weelbeing” seems like an odd word to use since it´s about killing but you should all understand that I mean less suffering = good.


I think that being out in the wild/forest/nature is a great thing. More people should really try to experience that once in a while. I eat meat so someone has to hunt and kill animals. I just rather it is someone with the right skills to do so. I might be a hypocrite, but I just want as little suffering as possible. My granddad was a hunter. I never looked down on him or his friends. And elk do tastes good. This is just all about the feeling I got no matter how wrong it may be in the eyes of others.

[Kemy]

Being able to handle a bow like that these days, proper archery as a hunting technique? my estimation of her has gone up, good for her.

[Highlander]

Since I don´t know if you´ve read my post in the other thread I might sound like a broken record. I know this subject is way over my head, so if it seems like I´m stating my opinios as fact I apologize. Never my intent. This might not be helpful at all, but I´m giving it a try.



You might have misunderstood me. I didn´t say that hunters in general or even that Eliza thinks that way. Only that I got the impression that she thought so. Like someone thinks that smoking, riding motorcycles, getting tatoos or be into a certain band is cool. But it´t really nothing else than an impression. And lets face it, impressions are just impressions and nothing else. So one impression on one person. Nothing else, ok?



I know that there can be many reasons for her “result”. But based on what we saw. Can you blame my initial reaction? Just curious since some people seem to think she showed great skill.



Errors occur everywhere ereryday. It´s just then it comes to the wellbeing of humans or animals I get more sensitive. I know the word “weelbeing” seems like an odd word to use since it´s about killing but you should all understand that I mean less suffering = good.


I think that being out in the wild/forest/nature is a great thing. More people should really try to experience that once in a while. I eat meat so someone has to hunt and kill animals. I just rather it is someone with the right skills to do so. I might be a hypocrite, but I just want as little suffering as possible. My granddad was a hunter. I never looked down on him or his friends. And elk do tastes good. This is just all about the feeling I got no matter how wrong it may be in the eyes of others.

Actually, I did read your posts on the other thread, I know where you were coming from and you stated it very well. I was attempting to explain, to a degree, the total experience and if you have never participated you probably would not understand. If you want to experience it without the killing part, take a camera with you or accompany a friend on a scouting trip.

Your feelings on the matter are not only justified, they are normal(I know, I was of the same thoughts for 26yrs) for someone who was not raised in the hunting lifestyle. The fact that you question things is great, you would be amazed at the number of people who oppose it without knowing the reality or the facts(In PETA's case fabrications). Now for the real kicker, you can shoot a bow and arrow without having to hunt with it, try it, Archery is a great sport and arguably one of the most challenging ones.

[Buffanator]

My opinion of her is *different*... not good or bad... just *different*. I still love her as an actress; I still love "Faith"! - I am still looking very forward to Dollhouse.

But the next time she aims that arrow toward an animal.... I secretly hope she gets a cramp & misses by a New York mile! ;)

[Crazy Flakes]

My opinion of her hasn't changed at all, aside from thinking that she's a good shot. I, personally, wouldn't want to shoot an animal, but if she wants to, then good for her. Besides, it's not like she's shooting down endangered species.

[littlewilly]

Not really, she's still hot and also played a great character.

[UnKle]

Like her even more now, because she was up front about it.

I was into archery several years back, for a short time, but I never used compound bows because at the time my arm just couldn't take the shock. You have to exert a few dozen pounds of pressure on it to lock it back like that. Doing it repetitively, even 3 times, would be tiring. I've never hunted, but I could learn. My ancestors did it to survive, so I think it would come naturally.

Now if she was gloating, making it seem like she did it willy-nilly for kicks and giggles, it would bother me.

The stupid audience probably would not have booed if it was a guy celeb up there talking about his hunting vacation. She shoulda told 'em all off.

So, yeah, her hotness meter only went up. :P

[Jonut]

I don't like her any better but I don't like her any less either. Boasting about killing things isn't exactly the best way to gain my respect, but I don't know her, so don't have reason enough to care about her choices like that.

[Ripper 08]

i've not read the thread on eliza hunting animals.but to be fair its something mankind has done well......... forever really so i voted don't no/don't care/other. it doesn't bother me that she hunts, she's still hot and an extremely good actress!

[Harm's Way]

Meh. It hasn't really changed. I'm an animal rights activist but hunting really isn't that bad compared to some other things.
I still really like her and I'm excited to see her in Dollhouse. :)

[Violette]

My opinion of her as an actress hasn't changed. I still like her character as Faith and acting talent. What people do in their "job" and "recreation time" are separate.

[GATEGOD]

No, it hasn't changed.

[CailinDilis]

Oooops I posted mine on the "animal rights disscussion thread thingy"
Naw my opinion hasnt changed in the slightest.I dont judge people on their life-styles,why should I judge a person I dont know?The woman gives me something from her acting,in her interviews I see an aspect of her personality that I really like and it humbles me to see such a personality in a "star",what Eliza and her boyfriend and other people do in their personal lifes is no concern of mine.Oviously if she or others did something that I was totally against like murder ;-} or hunting for sport or something like that then I would have problem with that but this I think has been blown out of all porpotion

[yellowcrayon]

I really respect her for being honest about it, especially when it seems (at least to me) like most of Hollywood would burn you at the stake if you so much as thought about a bow (or gun).

I've never hunted myself. I do think it's good (HEY! I like my meat!!), and sometimes necessary... for instance, DH's family has a ranch in Mexico. They take really good care of it, and the irrigation is great. As such they've got better vegetation than surrounding ranches, and the deer follow the vegetation. Problem is that the mountain lions follow the deer, and they're not picky about what they eat (sheep... cows... whatever), and that's not good for the ranch. Plus, too much of any animal is never a good thing, and in some ways hunting is a more humane way of doing it (they only sell a certain number of hunting tickets a year, and they make sure they have good hunters, and good guides so as to keep everything as quick and clean as possible). All that is to say, I'm okay with hunting. (Especially if I get meat out of it... ;))

So basically, yeah. I respect her honesty, and I respect her for hunting... takes strength and patience, two things which I lack. ;)