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LaneMeyer
08-14-2008, 12:21 PM
Welp, I'm midway through season 2 and I just watched this episode last night. I have to say, it's the best episode in atleast the first half of the season. So many pivotal things happen:

- The fallout of Angel losing his soul and the things he says to Buffy afterwards.. you can't help but feel for her. Basically, her heart is stomped on, and it's especially worse when you consider she gave herself to Angel the night before, he was her first, and he just disappears right after. Then when they do confront eachother, he acts, not like a evil vampire, just a male pig, but I think this hurts Buffy even more than if he just attacked her. It crushed her. Angel was right, "To kill this girl.. you have to lover her."

- Ms. Calendar's true identity is revealed.

- Cordelia/Xander's relationship is revealed to Willow and we get an immediate confrontation in the hallway at school. And later Willow sees Oz in a new light (after the talk in his van).

- The judge speaking the line, "What's that do?" when looking at the rocket launcher is comedic genius.

- Loved Buffy's response to her mom at the end. "So what did you do on your birthday? Did you have fun?" "I got older."

I must say, this episode is one of ones I think of when I defend SMG's acting chops to other people. I think she's excellent in it. I'm not an emotional guy, but her acting draws me into her sorrow deeply.

Oh, and I like Buffy's choice of a kick to the nuts to finish the fight with Angel. I guess it's because it felt like a good response for him ditching her after sex (her first time) and then saying all those things to her (before she knew he lost his soul).

I might have to watch this episode again before forging ahead with the rest of the season.

sk73
08-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Innocence is one of the classics. I love it.

Angelus is so cruel to Buffy, it really hurts to watch.
- You got a lot to learn about men, kiddo. Although I guess you proved that last night.


I kinda feel bad for Jenny though, always liked her.
Despite that I still love to see Giles supporting Buffy.
Jenny: Is there something I can do?
Buffy: Get out.
Jenny: I just want to help.
Giles: She just said get out.


Absolutely adore the ending with Buffy and her mum and the "cake". Such a sad and sweet moment...

/SK

The Kinslayer
08-14-2008, 02:32 PM
- The judge speaking the line, "What's that do?" when looking at the rocket launcher is comedic genius.
Thatīs one of my favourite Buffymoments, if not the favourite. Nothing says girlpower as a girl with a rocket launcher. :) The music still gives me goose bumps. *goes to listen*

scobro
08-14-2008, 02:55 PM
I think the scene that sticks out most as far as character building would be when Xander bluffed his way into the armory. It was his first real 'grown-up' moment.

LaneMeyer
08-14-2008, 02:55 PM
I kinda feel bad for Jenny though, always liked her.
Despite that I still love to see Giles supporting Buffy.
Jenny: Is there something I can do?
Buffy: Get out.
Jenny: I just want to help.
Giles: She just said get out.
/SK

I agree. I like that part for the same reason. Plus, I'm sure Giles felt used and maybe a little betrayed by Jenny.

Another good example of Giles supporting Buffy was later in the car when he was dropping her off. It was very similar to what a teenage girl might say to her father in the same type of situation (excluding the whole vampire/soul angle): "You must be so disappointed in me."

And he proceeds to just support her.

Just awesome dialogue/acting throughout this entire episode.

littlewilly
08-14-2008, 03:11 PM
Id just like to add this is the best ep of Buffy ever.

sk73
08-14-2008, 03:20 PM
oh yes, how could I forget about that great moment.
- if it's guilt you're looking for, Buffy, I'm, I'm not your man. All you will get from me is, is my support. And my respect.

And like everyone else (I guess) I also love the "What's that do?" line. Hilarious.

This episode (as many others) shows the great balance between humour and sadness that BtVS has.
A huge reason why I think it's such a great show.

/SK

DrusillaRox
08-14-2008, 03:25 PM
I love the scene at the end where joyce says "you look the same to me" thats so sweet....