Gellar: New 'Buffy' movie is 'dumbest idea ever'

Goby said:

If its going to be "loosely" related to the show, they why have it related at all?

Answer:

1. Money
2. Capitalize on Joss's brilliance
3. Capitalize on Btvs (series) brilliance
4. Capitalize on the brilliance of the writers of Btvs (series)
5. Capitalize on the brilliance of the actors of Btvs (series)
6. Distance herself from the crappy movie she made 20 years ago.

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But capitalizing on all that brilliance just seems like smart business. You wouldn't make a movie from a failed series and original ideas are in short supply. If it were another TV series I would have a problem, if it were a movie with the same character I would have a problem. I dont have one with this. I understand why you do, and they are valid reasons, but looking at it from a business standpoint there is nothing wrong with it.

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Goby said:

why have it related at all?

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I just thought of this, and if I am incorrect I apologize just remember some of your posts. Maybe as you just finished with the verse you are much closer to the source material. For me its been a few years since I sat down and watched either Buffy or Angel, so being further removed from it, its less of an issue. If it was new, or newer, to me I could see that as being a problem. Pretty much when the show ended, it ended with me. I never sat down and rewatched it episode by episode. So it's been over since '03 in my book.

I did just finished the verse, so I'm really close. OTOH, Buffy-Boards is still going strong 8 years after the series ended. I think a lot of of us are really close, but I do get your point.

Hmmm, would making a series from a failed movie be a good idea? I think it was. 😀

Oh, I didn't mean to upset you by calling it a "crappy movie." I'll call it a movie "lacking any entertainment or educational value" instead. 😀

We certainly have different opinions, and that's ok.

Goby said:

Hmmm, would making a series from a failed movie be a good idea? I think it was. 😀

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I wouldn't consider it failed.. but it's easier to 'downgrade' to TV than 'upgrade' to film. There are tons of failed movies from successful series. Then to go further, look at all the decades of really crappy comic book feature films there were, now it seems (for the most part) they finally got that right.


Well, if I had seen the series before the movie, I would have called the movie crappy as well. But to me, the movie was fresh new and something I had never really seen before. And that's why the series worked as well. And thats what maybe this movie could be..

Scobro said:

I wouldn't consider it failed.. but it's easier to 'downgrade' to TV than 'upgrade' to film. There are tons of failed movies from successful series. Then to go further, look at all the decades of really crappy comic book feature films there were, now it seems (for the most part) they finally got that right.


Well, if I had seen the series before the movie, I would have called the movie crappy as well. But to me, the movie was fresh new and something I had never really seen before. And that's why the series worked as well. And thats what maybe this movie could be..

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Just curious, when was it when you watched the movie? Was it when it came out, in the 90's?

I thought of something else which should be added: I will watch an average movie before I will watch a good TV series. I am not overly fond of the television format and there are very few series that I bother to watch as they air. So that may skew my outlook as well.

Scobro said:

Maybe as you just finished with the verse you are much closer to the source material. For me its been a few years since I sat down and watched either Buffy or Angel, so being further removed from it, its less of an issue. If it was new, or newer, to me I could see that as being a problem. Pretty much when the show ended, it ended with me. I never sat down and rewatched it episode by episode. So it's been over since '03 in my book.

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I think this is a good point. For some of us, we didn't discover Buffy until later, so it seems "new" to us. So a reboot/remake seems so unnecessary at this point & simply about money. Oh, and remember NFA didn't air until May of 2004, so the Buffyverse on television didn't end until '04.

Scobro said:

I thought of something else which should be added: I will watch an average movie before I will watch a good TV series. I am not overly fond of the television format and there are very few series that I bother to watch as they air. So that may skew my outlook as well.

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So, I'm the opposite. I have, in the past year, recently "rediscovered" TV at the time I rediscovered Buffy. Because I looked upon TV as the "lesser" medium for all those years, I missed a lot of good series. I really viewed television as "junk food for the brain" for a long time. I have changed my view on that (& Buffy & Whedon's other works are partly the cause of that), and I appreciate how TV series can delve deeply into characters, and have complex multi-layered stories. Of course with long series you typically get some crap episodes as well. That's not to say that I don't enjoy movies, I do. There are some fantastic movies out there, and there are things movies can do that TV can't (mostly due to budgets). But I think that Netflix & other online mediums have changed our ways of viewing both TVs and movies. I think TV series are probably more watched now, because there are more ways to watch them, and older favorite series can be enjoyed all over again, whereas in the past to do that you had to purchase the DVDs.

KellGreen said:

Reboots of things made previously in the same media -tv/movie I hate.

Rebooots of works of literature and plays I can tolerate. Many of incarnations of Shakespeare ("10 things I hate about you" is one of my favorites) have been great, as well as of Sherlock Holmes (love Guy Ritchie's reboot as well as the series "House"). Interpretations from one form of media to another, especially from literature where the picture and such is still vague enough for the reader's interpretation can be great. When it is within the same media, where we have been shown, literally, how each character looks and such, it is a mere regurgitation, with little of any beneft added IN MY VIEW.

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So basically your argument is entirely based on the difference between a play and a script? Sorry, but what exactly is the difference between the two? Besides that one is called a play and one is called a script this is just snobbery.

Quote taken from www.cracked.com :

Let's go back to Shakespeare for a moment. We mentioned how much he liked sequels, but that's nothing compared to the man's love of borrowing other people's plots and characters. The Greatest Writer Ever could boast only four completely original plays (Love's Labour's Lost, A Midsummer Night's Dream, The Merry Wives of Windsor and The Tempest). All the rest of his 36 plays were based on existing material.

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Even A Midsummer Night's Dream was based on real events.

The world remembers the Romeo and Juliet that Shakespeare gave us in 1595 but has long forgotten The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet -- which came out more than 30 years earlier -- possibly because of that stupid title. Hamlet was taken from a centuries-old legend, and some think the play we know and love was just purchased by Shakespeare's company and that Shakespeare just gave it a rewrite. And so on.

Just don't tell that to Kenneth Branagh.

Not that we're trying to pick on Shakespeare -- the point is that as long as humans can put ideas to paper and sell them for money, most of what they turn out will be rehashed, or copied, or a variation on a familiar theme. If anything, Hollywood is just figuring out what the masters knew centuries ago -- audiences like to be told the same story over and over again. We're kind of like children that way.

Not that we're pretending to be any better over here. We never get tired of hearing different ways that Batman punched The Joker.

Read more: 5 Trends You Think Are Ruining Movies (Are Older Than Film) | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/article_1915...movies-are-older-than-film.html#ixzz1MCb5akSV

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Scobro said:

I thought of something else which should be added: I will watch an average movie before I will watch a good TV series. I am not overly fond of the television format and there are very few series that I bother to watch as they air. So that may skew my outlook as well.

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Oh I'm the exact opposite. I really perfer TV. I feel like there's a lot more freedom to tell the story, because it's longer and you can really develop it. Television is such a beautiful medium that gets looked over. If I'm going to sit through a full length movie, I want it to be damn good. I hate watching mediocre movies because then I'm like "ok, so I sat through that for what? What was the point?" I'm majorly ADD and watching TV is much easier for me because if I have to sit through something longer than 43ish minutes, it's a special episode and most likely, I've been looking forward to it. And I'll watch marathons of TV... but I only have to pay attention for 43ish or 22ish minutes at a time and then I get a small break. If I watch a mediocre episode, or show... I accomplished something. I watched this show. And even the mediocre shows I watch, I end up loving because I become attached to them. After you watch enough episodes of a show, whether it's GREAT or not, you'll get attached to it, or at least I will.

All of this contributes to the fact I want to work in television... And that fact may be skewing my views...

Worst idea ever? Oh please. But as most she exaggerates to make a point of how much she dislikes it.

"They're just doing it to make money!" Well duh. Most, if not all, "big" movies are. Welcome to reality. This doesn't mean that the new version will suck. You don't have to like it but are you shouting the same thing towards all Hollywood movies? It's just about something you love right?

The new Star Wars might not be nearly as good as the first three ones but I don't think the company cared much. It brought enough money didn't it?

How many complained about Avatar? I know about a fee but not many. It's based on a very old story and has been done in different versions. But it's all ok because they don't take the name of something what you love.

Kean said:

It won't be based on the show. None of the characters that we saw on the show will be so much as mentioned on this reboot. It will be going off the original movies premise.

In reality, it isn't Buffy, as we know it, at all.

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It's isn't tv Buffy and I'm happy for it. TV Buffy is a version of the original Buffy. An original that is't close to be as loved as the show but still what the new movie will be a remake of. The movie will be different to the show and I'm not complaining. If you're going to do something that's already been done try to make it better. Now it at least have the chance.

How is the new movie a disgrace and an insult to Joss if they go by his original idea? I'm confused. The show isn't the original, it's a different take on something that didn't got made the how the creator wanted. Maybe the new movie will be more what Joss envisioned.

The movie might suck, be ok or even good. But that's not really the point when it comes to if the idea of the movie is bad or good. You never know the result before it's done even if people love to say "I knew it". The only thing we know is that it won't be the same as the show and if you hate everything that's not like the show then that's your loss. Judge the quality of the movie once you've seen it.

Finally something that just came to mind. Can they make the movie without a "Based on the character by Joss Whedon" or something to that extent?

Her reaction was the funniest part of this video "Nooooo" LOL!

I like the idea of a reboot, I think we can all agree Buffy is a timeless story that can apply to teens and adults in every generation. However, we need Joss to have that authenticity. I will defiantly be watching the movie to support the franchise, and hopefully it gives the TV show a "rebirth" in popular culture...because people who haven't watched Buffy are only cheating themselves out of a great experience 😀

I don't know what the big deal is. Superman has a lot of interpretations and so does every other super hero who matters. I say bring on the Buffy movie.

I don't like the idea of a reboot..id rather them just leave the show to rest. Not reboots are bad tho it depends whos remaking it

OhWow said:

I don't like the idea of a reboot..id rather them just leave the show to rest. Not reboots are bad tho it depends whos remaking it

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Its not a reboot of the show.

I don't see what all the fuss is about, so they are going to make another Buffy movie. I seem to remember hearing about a book that was written in 1899, there's been almost 200 films based on the main character of that book. (Dracula by Bram Stoker.)
I should think Joss will be proud to think his character of Buffy the Vampire Slayer will still be being reproduced in over a hundred years time.

And as Scobro said, the people who were in the series will not be to harsh about the planned movie, as they may rely on those people for a future project.

So what of SMG's comment's, a cynical person may think she had been paid to say those things, as she is helping to keep the project in the limelight.
Which form of advertising is bad advertising?