Spoiler! Season 8: Tales of the Vampires

Don

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So... slayer-vamp? I really hope Alex joins up with Twilight.
 
I don't want to look like a loser posting in my own thread, but find it hard to believe that after 231 thread views, not one person agrees that Buffy VS a Slayer-vamp would be the greatest battle ever.
 
I don't want to look like a loser posting in my own thread, but find it hard to believe that after 231 thread views, not one person agrees that Buffy VS a Slayer-vamp would be the greatest battle ever.

I don't know. I'm of the opinion that the powers of the Slayer are tightly bound to her soul. When turned into a vampire, she lost her soul and, I think, her Slayer powers.

Mike
 
I don't know. I'm of the opinion that the powers of the Slayer are tightly bound to her soul. When turned into a vampire, she lost her soul and, I think, her Slayer powers.

Mike

Also remember that the Slayers' powers came from the Shadow Men fusing part of a demon with the first Slayer. We saw in an episode in, I believe, Season 3 (the one that involved Ethan Rayne and the tattoos) that when a demon occupies a human body, it expels any other demonic presence within that body, the way Angel's demon expelled the other demon when it tried to occupy his body.

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wasn't this the apparent plan for the vampire Sunday in the beginning of season 4? They obviously didn't play that card but it would explain why buffy had so much more trouble with her than regular vamps.
 
crazysoulless
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I don't think Buffy had trouble because Sunday was tougher. Buffy's emotions were out of whack because of Angel-missage, it was her first couple of days at University, etc.
But what about Harth from Fray? I know we haven't seen much of his fighting capabilities, but he'd be a good example of the potential a slayer-vamp might have. While it might be true that Alex would lose her Slayer strength, it'd probably be wrong to assume that she'd just forget all of the nightmares that come with being a slayer. Harth was able to explain to the other vampires why he knew that if he drank their blood he'd become a vampire, and I'm sure that explanation probably had a lot to do with the dreams he had when he was human. Furthermore, it wouldn't really be a big deal that Alex lost her slayer-strength because she'd have vampire strength mixed with all the memories of battles fought by slayers over the centuries. BUffy mentions how she's got the upper-hand on Fray in ToYL because Fray's never had the nightmares. I'm not saying that Alex would have an upperhand on Buffy, but she would certainly be an extremely worthy opponent.
 
I think it's more like, not everyone here have read the comic yet. And your thread is spoiler when one moves the mouse over the headline. Pretty much a bummer
 
But what about Harth from Fray? I know we haven't seen much of his fighting capabilities, but he'd be a good example of the potential a slayer-vamp might have. While it might be true that Alex would lose her Slayer strength, it'd probably be wrong to assume that she'd just forget all of the nightmares that come with being a slayer. Harth was able to explain to the other vampires why he knew that if he drank their blood he'd become a vampire, and I'm sure that explanation probably had a lot to do with the dreams he had when he was human. Furthermore, it wouldn't really be a big deal that Alex lost her slayer-strength because she'd have vampire strength mixed with all the memories of battles fought by slayers over the centuries. BUffy mentions how she's got the upper-hand on Fray in ToYL because Fray's never had the nightmares. I'm not saying that Alex would have an upperhand on Buffy, but she would certainly be an extremely worthy opponent.

This is a really good point. I didn't think to bring Harth into this, but what you're saying makes a lot of sense and I agree with it. It wouldn't matter that she lost her slayer strength because she'd have vampire strength which is about equal, maybe lesser, but she also has fighting experience from the past which is more than a "newborn" vampire, generally. She would also know what it was like to be a slayer and what it's like to be a vampire. She'd have an advantage there, I think. Also, like you said, she'd have her human memories. Those don't go away, because we've seen so many flashbacks from the vampires on the show and how those memories made them who they are as vampires and most circumstances.

Also, I'd like to note that TotV takes place in Nashua, NH where my cousins live. So, I've been there loads of times and I thought that was really cool. =]
 
She's referring to Tales of the Vampire, the season 8 edition. It was kind of like a commercial break from the Scoobies' plots.
 
Just read the issue and i really liked it, i hope this isnt the last we see of alex as it could be very interesting to see where this is headed. I'm hoping in this case its not just a meaningless standalone story.
 
B
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I imagine, at best we'd see her in S9 or another spin-off, since even a Slayer!Vamp wouldn
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