- Jul 29, 2016
What exactly would she do to keep Spike away from her superpowered daughter?
He could be dis-invited from the house. She could tell Dawn to stay away from him.
Joyce has time to boil some water before Angel and Buffy arrive. So... 3 or 4 minutes.
The school would be much further away from Buffy's house than 3 or 4 minutes or are you suggesting that both Joyce and Buffy were just too lazy to walk when Joyce dropped Buffy off at School in Welcome to the Helllmouth. Also in School Hard, Joyce tells Buffy to get in the car, obviously so they can go home. Buffy also got a lift to school with that guy in Go Fish, sheer laziness on her part if her house is only 3 or 4 minutes away from school. In fact the school would have to be at the end of Buffy's street if she was to make it back home from there in 3 or 4 minutes, that includes her running.
There is clearly a time lapse between Spike arriving at the house and Joyce making the two of them a hot cocoa. Or are you suggesting that he arrives, completely forgets why he is there in the first place, takes a seat and immediately starts spilling his sorrows in the space of 3 or 4 minutes?
The book Spike needs is in Buffy's house. He didn't kill the clerk until he had what he wanted, either. I'm not even saying he would have, but there's just as much to support her would than he wouldn't.
Spike killed the clerk because he came up with a better idea on how to solve his problem so she was just a convenient snack. Spike knows it would be incredibly stupid to kill Joyce. Sure, he could've killed her and Willow would be at fault for sending him there in the first place, but all that would do is give Buffy a personal reason to want him dead. Also there's no "proof" that Willow actually did leave the book at Buffy's, she said she left it "somewhere". It's only when Spike asks "where?" and gets in her face that she gives the strongly implied answer of Buffy's house.
Anyone can think what they want. What gets me is the volumes of meta written on things that have little-to-no textual basis. The OP is about whether or not Spike had changed before the soul
Clearly Spike changed. In Season 2, he couldn't give a rat's arse about getting a soul. At the end of Season 6, he felt he needed one.
Saw a link to a tumblr post regarding Spike and Dru, questioning Giles' description of Dru as his sometimes paramour. Fanon is they were devout lovers, but that's all it is. Dru cheats on him frequently. The only time it's suggested she didn't was when she was sick in S2. The writing didn't fail. It wasn't a gaffe. The bulk of the text shows she wasn't all that into him.
Completely disagree. First off, Dru and Spike have been together for over a century (met in 1880, first break up in 1998). That's hardly the actions of someone who "wasn't all that into" their partner. Secondly, Dru looks after Spike when he is injured and she continues to sleep with him. There is no benefit for Dru to do so since Spike is not top dog anymore, yet she continues to do so. Again, not the actions of someone who "wasn't all that into" her partner.
Thirdly, aside from Angelus, Dru is pretty faithful to Spike up to post Season 2. The relationship between Angelus and Dru is very complicated, it's very underexplored, but the point is that Spike is quick to call out Dru on the Chaos Demon, showing that he's not blind to her actually cheating on him, but he 100% blames Angelus for the other stuff. That suggests there is an underlying issue there and given what Angelus did to Dru, it isn't a simple case of Dru being "a big ho".
Also, on a side note, Sunnydale was SHOWN to have docks throughout Season 2&3, yet in Season 7 it was SHOWN to be completely landlocked. Inconsistencies happen. but you have to look at stuff surrounding dialogue in order to figure out the actual version of events. I consider the FFL Sprusilla flashback a retcon. In Lovers Walk, not only does Spike retell his tale of woe to two separate people at two separate times in a consistent manner whilst drunk, his emotional reactions also back the story up. In FFL, not only does the Sprusilla break up scene contradict what Spike said happened in Lovers Walk, but it also completely ignores the fact that Spike and Dru did briefly get back together after Lovers Walk before she left him for a fungus demon. At best you could argue that Dawn's insertion into the world altered memories including Spike's memory of the Sprusilla break up to make it all about Spuffy (which makes Lover's Walk the "true" canon of events), at worst it is a glaring retcon.
Angelus would have been trained by the Order of Aurelius,
No he wasn't. He was pretty dismissive of the Master before he and Darla left, with the Master giving their relationship an expiry date of "a century tops." Angelus was just a nasty piece of work.