Bangel or Spuffy? #2

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She didn't really. It's just that Joss first decided Buffy should take all the wrong things away from her relationship with Angel (her talk with Willow at the beginning of 'Something Blue' has me banging my head against a wall) because Buffy in pain is more interesting. And the supposed slayer darkness didn't become a thing until the Season where Spike also falls in love with Buffy. There is zero evidence for me that Buffy loves pain when she is allowed to be in her right mind, isntead of yanked around for story purposes.

Gosh darn that canon! The writers had those characters do all kinds of things we wish they didn't and knew they shouldn't and wouldn't if they just didn't live in the Jossverse. Thank goodness for fan fic! I like when they get a chance to play things differently and we get to indulge in "what if".

But, the characters do belong to Joss and company.

Thanks for the interesting discussion.
 
What a shocker, I pick Bangel.

Bangel- I've explained on the Angel shipping forum why I love this couple so much. It had to do with their instant connection due to their lost souls. They both want normalcy, but can never have it. She's human but also not human because of the slayer thing. He is human but also not human since he is the only vampire with a soul at this time. They have a fundamental understanding of each other. They are both champions and both failures. Their love is mutual, compassionate, passionate, intense, understanding, and that just adds up to epic in my book. But, their love for each other does not blind them from their mission which is one of the most important aspects of Bangel. She killed him when she had to in order to save the world even though it nearly broke her. Angel told her to go home when he was trying to help Faith by helping her find her soul again. They both knew the mission was the most important thing. For some reason I feel like Buffy sometimes forgets this when she is with Spike. Another point on Bangel is they knew that they had to let each other go even if they didn't want to. I feel like Bangel gets a bad wrap for being an immature high school puppy love, but I would like to contest it with the fact that what is more mature than letting someone you love more than anything in this life go for their own well-being and for the greater good of humanity? I'm not sure if anything is. They loved each other enough and were devoted to their missions enough to let each other go.

Spuffy- Hey for what it was, it was just fine. After coming back from the dead, a little hate sex seemed to be what Buffy needed. But that's all it was for me and for her until the writers tried to make Spuffy more than it should have been. I don't think they did this in the show, but from what I've read on here about the comics it sounds like they did. So with just taking the show into consideration, I don't contest Spuffy as much as some other Bangel shippers. I think it had a time and a place. The stalking and obsession and buffbot was really disturbing and turned me off from them right from the start. I didn't mind the s6 dynamic as much as others do, I felt like it made sense for the state Buffy was in. But, then it just got too violent and once again I was turned off by it. Then in s7 I appreciated their honest friendship. But, I just don't feel like Buffy was ever in love with Spike. And honestly, I'm not sure if Spike was ever in love with Buffy or if it was just some weird sick obsession that he twisted into thinking it was love. Maybe a part of him loved her, but can obsession ever really be love? I personally don't think it can.
 
Bangel. Despite its faults, it was a lot healthier relationship than Spuffy was. Spuffy just dragged Buffy and Spike down. Also I prefer Spike with Drusilla.
 
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I like your post and the way you've thought things through from Buffy's perspective. You don't think it's a factory that both Buffy and Faith are hetrosexual? I wish Buffy and Faith were closer and could lean on each other more for support and share there commonalities and become best friends/sisters. If they were bi or gay they would make a great couple but both of them choose male partners, except Buffy that one time with Satsu.
I understand Fuffy shippers but I think they get carried away. Faith is in denial about any gay leanings she has and I'm not convinced Buffy are very strong and she's not comfortable with them. I think she fell into a relationship with Satsu because she was lonely and liked the attention and clicked with Satsu on a friendship level but she seemed confused and ambivalent the whole time. Both Faith and Buffy need to deal with and acknowledge any gay feelings they have before they can be a pairing. I do think they need and compliment each other as friends I love what was done with them in the comics.
 
Joss, is that you? Sure sounds like his exact words. But I guess you were wrong Joss, since Spike wasn't for the long haul after all.
JOss seems to like playing both sides of the fence. He won't let either ship have a definite end. It's always left open. He comes back to write the comics, breaks up Spuffy, then leaves it open ended for the ship wars to continue. lol
Joss, is that you? Sure sounds like his exact words. But I guess you were wrong Joss, since Spike wasn't for the long haul after all.
Joss just seems to wanna play both sides of the fence.

He's apparently into Spuffy, no shock given his Marvel pairings. Lol But as soon as he comes back, he breaks up Spuffy, moves Angel back to Sunnydale, then leaves Bangel or Spuffy wide open. I guess to avoid upsetting either fanbase

Open-endings kill me. Seems like the story isn't complete.

Pick something & solidify it.
 
Neither I was never really on board with Spuffy maybe I was curious about them in the beginning but as soon as Spike started to have a thing for Buffy I was out the door and continued to be even after the final season of the show and the comics.

I like Bangel despite its faults but I just wasn't fully invested in it

I personally just wanted Buffy to just choose herself and be single for a while. I'm Team Buffy and she can't have a future with either one anyway their both vampires, she will age they won't.
 
JOss seems to like playing both sides of the fence. He won't let either ship have a definite end. It's always left open. He comes back to write the comics, breaks up Spuffy, then leaves it open ended for the ship wars to continue. lol

Joss just seems to wanna play both sides of the fence.

He's apparently into Spuffy, no shock given his Marvel pairings. Lol But as soon as he comes back, he breaks up Spuffy, moves Angel back to Sunnydale, then leaves Bangel or Spuffy wide open. I guess to avoid upsetting either fanbase

Open-endings kill me. Seems like the story isn't complete.

Pick something & solidify it.
I'd rather actually they left it open and let people assume what they want than them pull something I hate and have to consign it to the bin in my personal canon. Things never truly end and having being a gunner in this shipping war I can understand why Joss didn't want to touch it or make him last comic season about the ships.
 
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