Sunnydale Fan Fic Club: Angel Character Chat

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For the month of November The Sunnydale Fan Fic Club are doing Character Chats to help inspire writers participating in NaNoWriMo or any of the other seasonal ficathons (including IWRY). This first character chat was of Angel. Both myself and @Grace joined the ladies to talk about all things Angel.

Check the episode out here:

CHARACTER CHAT - Angel

I think the best piece of advice I personally gave was that of my Angel pant theory!

Next up for them are chats on Buffy and then Spike!
 
Angel was born in 1727.
Angel was sired in 1753.
Angel was cursed in 1898.
Angel met Whistler & watched Buffy called as a Slayer in 1996.
Angel arrives in Sunnydale in 1997.
Angel leaves Sunnydale in 1999.

1999 - 1727 = 272
272 + 100 (Hell) = 372

Angel returns to LA in 1999.
Angel leaves LA in 2004.

372 + 5 = 377

In Welcome to the Hellmouth he was 270 and in Not Fade Away he was 377.

I thought Angel leaving Buffy was selfless, noble, self sacrificing, and putting her future happiness above his own. Until the spinoff happened and he was a convertible driving hotel owning businessman who made thousands a month and actively tried dating other women. The hermit Angel on BtVS who was closed off outside of his girlfriend, she deserved better than that though even that was better than she'd ever get in his absence. But the AtS Angel who went out to dinner with friends and tried connecting with people, that's who she deserved and he denied her that. He made himself into exactly what she deserved then spent years not letting her experience it. It became cruel.
 
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Angel was born in 1727.
Angel was sired in 1753.
Angel was cursed in 1898.
Angel met Whistler & watched Buffy called as a Slayer in 1996.
Angel arrives in Sunnydale in 1997.
Angel leaves Sunnydale in 1999.

1999 - 1727 = 272
272 + 100 (Hell) = 372

Angel returns to LA in 1999.
Angel leaves LA in 2004.

372 + 5 = 377

In Welcome to the Hellmouth he was 270 and in Not Fade Away he was 377.

Thanks, @Grace and I were actually commenting on how we should have had your comments on another thread on the boards handy when we were discussing his age because you seem to have a good grasp of it. Anyway, I think there is significance to the fact that he doesn't count his human age. I think he does really feel like his life ended and started in a different way.

Also, I think that Angel arrived in Sunnydale before Buffy so I think he probably went there sometime in 1996. Because in The Wish he said he went there and waited for her.
 
Thanks, @Grace and I were actually commenting on how we should have had your comments on another thread on the boards handy when we were discussing his age because you seem to have a good grasp of it. Anyway, I think there is significance to the fact that he doesn't count his human age. I think he does really feel like his life ended and started in a different way.

Also, I think that Angel arrived in Sunnydale before Buffy so I think he probably went there sometime in 1996. Because in The Wish he said he went there and waited for her.

I was thinking of that but I wasn't sure how much of a head start he would have between the Summers girls picking Sunnydale and them moving there. They arrived in January 1997 so he could've arrived in late 1996. Maybe Whistler (a PTB with precognition) knew before Buffy did that she'd end up in Sunnydale.

Actually, how much time did Giles have between the Summers girls picking Sunnydale and their arrival? He moved from England to the States, got an apartment, and got hired as SHS librarian before Buffy got there.

I think Joyce had to wait for escrow. That can take a couple of months. It makes perfect sense.

Buffy was activated in January 1996. Her Watcher died just before the school dance (April or May) and she got expelled for starting a fire at it in the gym. She takes off for a week to Las Vegas to delay the inevitable and because there was a case there. She gets back and it's revealed to them that she is the Slayer and they lock her in the psych ward for 2-3 weeks. It is too much for her parents and they divorce that summer and her dad moves out. Buffy is banned from most of the schools in the LA district so can't just enroll for fall semester. Joyce does research and finds 4 locations that have an art gallery she could manage and a school that will admit Buffy. She picks Sunnydale and spends what would've been her fall semester of 10th grade in independent study or not in school. In Welcome to the Hellmouth Buffy says she feared she'd be behind in all her classes, introduces herself to Willow by asking for help studying because "I have a burning desire not to flunk all my classes", is seen trying to catch up, and has a nightmare that she flunked an exam.

Demons not counting their human years seems to be a thing. Spike didn't count his human years. Anya didn't count her human years.

Angel did bring up his time as Liam to Buffy though. He told her when he became Angelus he killed his parents, their friends, & their friend's children. He gave her a claddagh ring, which he remembered couples wearing back in Galway. He told her about how when he was her age he always wanted to meet a girl who was exciting & interesting. The First Evil mocked his wasteful youth and how he was a terrible disappointment to his parents.
 
This was such a joy to listen to! You both did really well and it was just a very fun episode with great insight into the character.

And I smiled like a crazy person when you guys talked about Angel "talking too much" as a fanfic pet peeve!

I wish you two would do a podcast together! 🙂
 
My favorite part was when they asked what's the biggest obstacle to Cangel.

👍"Angel isn't in love with her." 👍
 
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